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kipper215
08-10-2004, 05:32 PM
i would like to know which pad is the better pad. ferodo cost more, but does the B force give simular performance? also are the ferodo's hard on rotors? can i get some feed back from anyone that has these pads. thanx :D

500whp
08-10-2004, 06:55 PM
Endless all the way =) http://www.socalevo.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2972

GokuSSJ4
08-10-2004, 09:20 PM
are these pads for track or street use ??PM Ricardon he is currently running the Ferrodo pads .

Absinthe
08-11-2004, 08:52 AM
i would like to know which pad is the better pad. ferodo cost more, but does the B force give simular performance? also are the ferodo's hard on rotors? can i get some feed back from anyone that has these pads. thanx :D

I saw a Project -Mu temp and friction co-effcient chart posted by I think drmosh a while back that showed even though the B-force pads have a higer operating temp than the NS the cold friction co-ef was lower.

Also the operating range of the DS2500 and the friction Co-ef are significantly larger and highher than that of the B-force in other words on paper its no contest between the two.

Endless cost too much for what they provide based purely on numbers I have never used them but for a pad with comparable operating temps and friction ratings as the DS2500 you will pay well more, also its great endless won a few races in japan but Ferodo has been in the business alot longer and I am sure makes a comparable product.

As for rotor issues I run the 2500, so does Ricardon, and Redvolution among others none of us have had issues yet.

EvoVIII
08-11-2004, 09:11 AM
stock brembo pad are pretty good.. except is a little dusty.. if you are driving on the street and dont see alot of track, stick with the stock, improving 1 or 2 feet of braking distance can't really see the differnece except for the feeling and it will worn out ur rotor a lot quicker after you get after market pads, besides thank god we are equiped with Brembo brakes, you should feel happy

donatevo
08-11-2004, 09:45 AM
I'll go with ferodo DS2500 on my next pads replacement.

kipper215
08-11-2004, 10:16 AM
if i wanted to get the stock OEM pads where can i get them from?

gt40
08-11-2004, 10:23 AM
you can just about get 2 sets of ds2500's for what one set of stock will cost you and the ferodos stop better...

Absinthe
08-11-2004, 10:24 AM
stock oem pads will cost you more for just the fronts than you can get all four fredo's or project mu pads if your thinking of doing that go with the Project Mu NS pad. Drmosh has/had them ask him for imput. I know they are way cheaper than anything we are discussing.

Guack007
08-11-2004, 10:47 AM
While I plan on going Ferodo myself due to the stock being more expensive and Ferodo being very reputable; I am concerned with acelerated rotor wear. Rotors are expensive. For those running the Ferodo pads, are you on stock rotors? How many mile, any input would be appreciated.

drmosh
08-11-2004, 10:49 AM
Project MU pads are not for everyone... I run the NS right now and they take a lot to heat up, are hell on rotors but on the track they don't fade at all...
They aren't noisy like the Ferodo DS3000 I'll say that.


http://www.project-mu.co.jp/e/images/parts/pads/brake_chart.jpg

I can only imagine the B-Specs will be even harder to warm up.

Absinthe
08-11-2004, 11:03 AM
While I plan on going Ferodo myself due to the stock being more expensive and Ferodo being very reputable; I am concerned with acelerated rotor wear. Rotors are expensive. For those running the Ferodo pads, are you on stock rotors? How many mile, any input would be appreciated.

20 k total miles 11 w/ferodos.

kipper215
08-11-2004, 11:09 AM
so project mu's will eat the rotors up?

kipper215
08-11-2004, 11:10 AM
While I plan on going Ferodo myself due to the stock being more expensive and Ferodo being very reputable; I am concerned with acelerated rotor wear. Rotors are expensive. For those running the Ferodo pads, are you on stock rotors? How many mile, any input would be appreciated.

20 k total miles 11 w/ferodos.

how is the brake feel? do they have a good bite when you hit the brakes?

GokuSSJ4
08-11-2004, 11:17 AM
I run the project mu Titan Kai , there great pads . My next set i will check out the Performance friction 97 or the DS2500 .

drmosh
08-11-2004, 11:28 AM
so project mu's will eat the rotors up?

Yes, basically they will scar your rotors because they are high heat resistant compound, but any race pad you run will do the same... the PF97's or the DS3000's are not easy on rotors.

If yer looking for a street pad the DS2500's are good overall or just go OEM.

G20
08-11-2004, 01:31 PM
I have the DS2500 on for about 1000 miles now. It works great, stop better and only making squeeze noise when you brake easy at low speed.
I rotors have not been scar... yet!

Guack007
08-11-2004, 02:13 PM
Thnx for the replys. I think Ill be going 2500s as well.

Hey G20, how are the 2500s as far as dust is concerned vs the stock pads?

Absinthe
08-11-2004, 02:14 PM
While I plan on going Ferodo myself due to the stock being more expensive and Ferodo being very reputable; I am concerned with acelerated rotor wear. Rotors are expensive. For those running the Ferodo pads, are you on stock rotors? How many mile, any input would be appreciated.

20 k total miles 11 w/ferodos.

how is the brake feel? do they have a good bite when you hit the brakes?

pedal feel is fine and rotors are not scaring, initial bit is about the same as stock but I cant fade them, and the car overall does stop better.

kipper215
08-11-2004, 02:28 PM
Thnx for the replys. I think Ill be going 2500s as well.

Hey G20, how are the 2500s as far as dust is concerned vs the stock pads?


yeah it sounds like the ferodos are the way to go. :wink:

modankevo
08-11-2004, 02:44 PM
where can i pick up some Ferodo's 2500 from?

G20
08-12-2004, 12:14 AM
Thnx for the replys. I think Ill be going 2500s as well.

Hey G20, how are the 2500s as far as dust is concerned vs the stock pads?

A little less dust than stock, a little different in color. But don't expect your wheels to look clean more than a week of normal driving.

G20
08-12-2004, 12:24 AM
where can i pick up some Ferodo's 2500 from?

http://www.RaceShopper.com
1-800-733-8380

I got mine for both front and rear $244 shipped. Just call them during the day (they're in east coast) to order and it should arrive at your door in 3 to 4 days.

By the way, if you turn the rotors it'll make less noise quicker than not turning them, let say, for about 800 miles versus 400 miles. But the squeeze noise at low speed easy braking will still there for a while. Some people prefer not to turn the rotors so.

JanSolo
08-12-2004, 12:29 AM
I think the Endless Super Street S Sports are tops for the street. I have experienced less squeal with the Endless pads than stock Brembo pads and much better cold bite to boot.