how much power?

[BabyBlueDragon19]

whats your horse power with simple bolt on guys nothin internal like cams, valves, or nothing like upgraded turbo, but more like furl rail,fuel pump, fuel injectors,intake, full exhaust,spark, new intake manifold? i would really like to see what kinda power you can get with simple bolt ons get the idea? and can you get 320 at wheels with simple bolt ons or more?

[GokuSSJ4]

if you consider an intake manifold as a simple bolt on, then cams should be included then.

[rammsteinmatt]

and isnt a turbo technically external, and it can be just "bolted on"

[EvoPwr]

^^^thats true. ;)

[moogle]

whats your horse power with simple bolt on guys nothin internal like cams, valves, or nothing like upgraded turbo, but more like furl rail,fuel pump, fuel injectors,intake, full exhaust,spark, new intake manifold? i would really like to see what kinda power you can get with simple bolt ons get the idea? and can you get 320 at wheels with simple bolt ons or more?

bogey has a turbo back,02 housing, intake, 720 injectors, safc tune from TT and got 298 on 91 octane.

[BabyBlueDragon19]

well the reason im askin is im about to take on a integra LS Fully built with turbo and im not spendin 4k on a new turbo or doing cams, but i at least am willin to spend 3k on parts any help would be nice recommodations would be lots of help and i dont need sarcastic Fu@#s! so far i have hks full cat back , no kitty cat, downpipe, safcII,hks evc V, clutch masters stage 4 with alum flywheel so i hope im at least at 290 or better

[GokuSSJ4]

then IMO i would consider some HKS cams 272/272's since you can purchase them for near 550.00. IMO cams make a huge difference and its worth the investment.

[BabyBlueDragon19]

what else beside cams?i need fully details how about 264 intake and 272 exhaust

[GokuSSJ4]

what else beside cams?i need fully details how about 264 intake and 272 exhaust
you can't go wrong with either 264/272 or 272/272 cams
things to consider
cams
turbo back
test pipe (since you guys are racing)
SAFC tune for 100 octane
MBC boosting near 23psi taper to 21psi (on 100 octane)
injectors to get rid off fuel cut
FMIC if you can afford it (you dont need to but every bit helps)

[DTunedEvoX]

Cams would pretty much be your only option .. besides a higher octane tune for your SAFC-II ... 8)

[Absinthe]

whats your horse power with simple bolt on guys nothin internal like cams, valves, or nothing like upgraded turbo, but more like furl rail,fuel pump, fuel injectors,intake, full exhaust,spark, new intake manifold? i would really like to see what kinda power you can get with simple bolt ons get the idea? and can you get 320 at wheels with simple bolt ons or more?

bogey has a turbo back,02 housing, intake, 720 injectors, safc tune from TT and got 298 on 91 octane.

test pipe or hi-flow??, he also had a P2

[dlieu959]

how "fully built" is this LS turbo? If its as crazy as i'm thinking, and he's slick down, you better spend your money wisely. Cams for sure.

[BabyBlueDragon19]

well like i said in my previous post i have 3"rmr down pipe,Perrin Cat 3" Delete pipe,HKS carbon exhaust catback, Hks rs Intake , Greddy BOV, HKS EVC V, APEX SAFC II , CLUTCH MASTERS stage 4 with alum fly wheel
thats what i have on my car right now, but i got 3k to spend
the guy im racing has a integra coupe LS motor fully built ,springs, valves, retainers, bigger pistons, port polished ,balanced, the whole shbangs plus a t67 turbo

[Hallster]

Autobot Poster, check your PMs

Hallster



what else beside cams?i need fully details how about 264 intake and 272 exhaust
you can't go wrong with either 264/272 or 272/272 cams
things to consider
cams
turbo back
test pipe (since you guys are racing)
SAFC tune for 100 octane
MBC boosting near 23psi taper to 21psi (on 100 octane)
injectors to get rid off fuel cut
FMIC if you can afford it (you dont need to but every bit helps)

[EvoPwr]

where are you racing, a track or streets?

[gofaster87]

if you consider an intake manifold as a simple bolt on, then cams should be included then.

Technically, everything is a bolt on thats not internal.

[BOVBILLY]

INTAKE MANIFOLD IS NOT A GOOD CHOICE, UNLESS YOU ARE RUNNING A STAND ALONE!

[GokuSSJ4]

if you consider an intake manifold as a simple bolt on, then cams should be included then.

Technically, everything is a bolt on thats not internal.
it's a pain in the @$$ to install a sheet intake to the evo, and theres hardly any gains.

If the car is slick , you will have some serious competition on your hands.
for 3k you can purchase a turbo kit for 2k and spend the rest in tuning and the additional things that you need/
Like the BR440 is around 2300.00

[BabyBlueDragon19]

on a clean :driving: :skid: strightaway

[EVOate909]

u need an o2 housing...

i have one for sale.... 8)

[BabyBlueDragon19]

ok here what im planin on buyin 720 greddy fuel injectors,walbro pump fuel rail,264,272 cams, nology wires, ralliart intercooler pipe what do u guys think ?

[BabyBlueDragon19]

u need an o2 housing...

i have one for sale.... 8)
o2 housing?

[Nebolic]

okay here is the deal, if you're racing from a dig, a simple cat back will get you the win for sure.

If you're running from a roll and he hooks up traction, you will definetly need a turbo back, a lot of tuning and possibly some cams.

I've raced a b18 hatch back with a turbo and I barely edged him out on a roll with a catback and flash. I won by about 1 car length but that is the closest car length I've ever felt. Made me sweat my pants.

Best bet is this

turbo back ~ $850
Cams ~ $850
SAFC plus customing tuning ~ $800

you get $500 in change, in which you can throw a party for us after you beat the turbo integ.

Nebo

[BabyBlueDragon19]

"THIS IS WHAT I HAVE ON MY EVO "

HKS RS INTAKE
GREDDY BOV
HKS EVC V
APEX SAFCII
RMR 3" DOWN PIPE
PERRIN 3" CAT DELETE with cel fix
HKS 3"CARBON FULL CATBACK EXHAUST
CLUTCH MASTERS stage 4 Clutch KIT with Alum fly

"THIS IS WHAT I HAVE ON MY EVO "

PARTY lol yea sure! ill need a bottle of crystal after this one!

[Nebolic]

you are good to go. Seriously if you want insurance on the win get cams. Otherwise, there is no way you will lose.

Nebo

[EVOate909]

o2 housing?

its the part that goes above the downpipe...
it gives you faster spool and bout 5-10whp
http://www.we-todd-did-racing.com/wetoddimage.wtdr/wNzY1NjE3NnM0MTNkZmQzMXk1NDE%3D.jpg

[GokuSSJ4]

okay here is the deal, if you're racing from a dig, a simple cat back will get you the win for sure.

If you're running from a roll and he hooks up traction, you will definetly need a turbo back, a lot of tuning and possibly some cams.

I've raced a b18 hatch back with a turbo and I barely edged him out on a roll with a catback and flash. I won by about 1 car length but that is the closest car length I've ever felt. Made me sweat my pants.

Best bet is this

turbo back ~ $850
Cams ~ $850
SAFC plus customing tuning ~ $800

you get $500 in change, in which you can throw a party for us after you beat the turbo integ.

Nebotheres a huge difference with a car that has a turbo and no bottom end work (since he is limited to how much he can boost, i believe near 6-8lbs the most)
while if he has a bottom end build , which envolves bigger displacement, lower Compression Ratio, stronger rods he can easily boost near 12-16lbs on race gas.
Some LS set up put out near 300whp if not a bit more, like i said if the car is slick down; you will have some serious competition. since some of those set up with a good driver are capable of 11's.
Look at www.buschurracing.com set up as a guide line and try to aim your goals for a stage IV. An make sure what ever you have left you spend it in tuning to create a map for 100 or c-12 boosting 24psi , also i would consider ARP head studs if you plan to raise the boost that high.

[BabyBlueDragon19]

o2 housing?

its the part that goes above the downpipe...
it gives you faster spool and bout 5-10whp
http://www.we-todd-did-racing.com/wetoddimage.wtdr/wNzY1NjE3NnM0MTNkZmQzMXk1NDE%3D.jpg
nice nice i was thinkin about that , so 10-15 ponys, have you guys heard about that MAGNUS INTAKE MANIFOLD Proven to make over 40 hp at the wheels on Mitsubishi applications.
im very interested in this peice

http://www.vividracing.com/catalog/images/magnus1.jpg

[BabyBlueDragon19]

i was thinkin MAGNUS MANIFOLD, RALLI ART INTERCOOLING PIPING, FUEL PUMP, FUEL INJECTORS, FUEL RAIL ,NOLOGY WIRES, 264 272 CAMS i hope with this i achevie 360at wheels hopefully

[self.one]

05 MR
hks 264i/272e, cam gears, bov with upper charge pipe, evc ebc
arc intake box, front mount
fujitsubo super ti exhaust
jspeed downpipe
helix test pipe
walbro 255
custom xflash by shiv himself

321 whp/ 320 wtq on 91

[tama_mog]

ur ralliart IC pipes (waste of $$) is not going to fit with the magnus intake manifod. And with those mods you will not have 360 @ the wheels on 91 octane. Higher octane and a standalone may get you there. Intake manifolds gives gains but it is relative to how modified the vehicle is, you don't go through the trouble of relocating everything in your car to install a magnus intake manifold without many supporting mods and expect 40whp gain, that's not going to happen. Do a Dr. Gray stage 1 and if you still crave more power then move on from there. Btw the nology wires aren't better than stock and it's actually debatable that they are actually worse than stock. And you don't need a fuel rail, the stock one is plenty big to handle big power much less those kind of mods you listed.

[Thedread]

If that is truly a fully built turbo integra...can you say big trouble. If this is a 1/4 or from a roll type deal...then change it to a track with lots of twisties......otherwise you might be surprised by the lightweight integra.....and don't feel bad either as some of those turbo integras will beat Ferraris, porsches, corvettes all day long in the 1/4 and from a roll.

[Nebolic]

Traction traction traction. If he hooks up you're toast :D

Hope he's not running slicks

Nebo

[BabyBlueDragon19]

thanks for the help fellas but homeboy said " NAW ITS COOL LETS JUST CALL IT OFF"
:werd:

[Thedread]

thanks for the help fellas but homeboy said " NAW ITS COOL LETS JUST CALL IT OFF"
:werd:

Maybe his turbo is not fully built......hmmmmm