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WavMixer
11-08-2005, 05:46 PM
I just ran across this thread (http://www.socalevo.net/index.php?option=com_smf&Itemid=26&topic=11925.0) and felt that I really needed to add my .02.

To start with, I'm a Mopar guy from way back. I've owned a TA Challenger and a AAR Cuda. I believe that on the 7th day, God created the Hemi. With that said, we all need to remember that the 4G63 started as a group venture between Chrysler and Mitsubishi, this group venture was located in Normal IL and was known as DSM (Diamond Star Motors) Diamond from the Mitsu diamond logo and Star from the Chrysler star logo. This plant is now where Mitsu makes the Eclipse.

Now that the history lesson is over, let's look at the Evo and the SRT-4

Evo = Lancer on steroids
SRT-4 = Neon on steroids

Evo weighs 3197 lbs curb weight
SRT-4 weighs 2900 curb weight

Evo has 2.0 liter turbocharged engine
SRT-4 has 2.4 liter turbocharged engine

By all rights the SRT-4 should be faster than the Evo. After all, less weight, more engine. But the fact of the matter is, if an Evo wins a race against a SRT-4, the SRT-4 driver says "well your car cost $10,000 more than the SRT-4." If the Evo loses he can say, "your car is lighter and you have a bigger engine."

When I was shopping for a replacement for my 3G Eclipse, I was looking into the Evo, STi, SRT-4 and GTO. I opted for the Evo over the SRT-4 simply because of the handling. While pulling out of the dealer's driveway with the SRT-4, I gassed it a bit and the front end chattered from loss of traction. I did finish the test drive, however that first driveway incident told me the whole story. I did buy a PT Cruiser GT for my wife, and it has the same 2.4 liter, 225 HP engine as the SRT-4. For me, I had to have the Evo.

Now y'all know my opinion of the SRT-4 vs. Evo controversy. I own both, an Evo and Pregnant SRT-4 (PT Cruiser GT). now let's talk about SoCalEvo.net. This is an Evo club, not a SRT-4 club. People like us (Evo & SRT-4 owners) are more involved with their cars than the average car owner. To us it's a love affair. Nobody, but nobody, is gonna talk trash about the cars we love without a fight. So my recomendation to the SRT-4 owners cruising this board and getting their panties in a wad because an Evo owner likes their car better, just get over it. It's just a damn message board for christ sake. If you try to win a shit throwing contest on this board, you will lose. Not because the Evo is faster than the SRT-4, but because this board is run by Evo owners, not SRT-4 owners. We reserve the right to talk shit about SRT-4s, Rustangs, STis, or any other car we want to because after all, we all own Evos, not other cars. With this said, y'all can reserve the right to talk trash about the Evo on your own boards, but as for here, Evo is king.

Blaze
11-08-2005, 06:22 PM
Well put.

We should place this in a pop up message every time a n00b navigates to SoCal.

"Do you accept these terms?"

Yes
No....Goodbye!

O0

genrec
11-08-2005, 06:34 PM
agreed, i personally will never make another remark about the srt.

thanks wav for the calm point of view from a socal icon. ;)

ErroR
11-09-2005, 12:30 AM
Very well said. I will be watching this thread for excessive flaming from the SRT boys.

itsnino
11-09-2005, 11:49 AM
EVOS SUCK ///// SRT-4 RULES

was it the other way around? :buck2:

rammsteinmatt
11-09-2005, 12:44 PM
man i paid 10k more for less displacement, more weight, and great service. im officially SRTmatt now




:2funny:

but seriously, if the SRT had a more aggressive look, maybe it would get more credit. it has a "lets be friends" look

tontonh09
11-09-2005, 12:55 PM
+ 1 O0

SpdyEvo02
11-09-2005, 12:59 PM
Very well said. I will be watching this thread for excessive flaming from the SRT boys.

+1

x_srt4_x
11-09-2005, 01:08 PM
Hmmmmmmmm..............

[p]dOG.
11-09-2005, 01:12 PM
yuuummmm......

Racing Chick
11-09-2005, 01:17 PM
Evos just flat kick ass, end of story. :twisted:

WavMixer
11-09-2005, 01:18 PM
Dayum!! Did I say that? Move over Arnie, Wav for governor!!!

Racing Chick
11-09-2005, 01:21 PM
Dayum!! Did I say that? Move over Arnie, Wav for governor!!!

Now that's something I would go vote for. :2funny:

SpdyEvo02
11-09-2005, 01:24 PM
Wave for Gov

umiami80
11-09-2005, 02:17 PM
The Evo has a Bigger Turbo, Better FMIC, and can make more power up top then the SRT-4

santhology
11-10-2005, 12:22 PM
well said... i love the SRT-4 and STI and i also love The G35, M3, 911, and a shit load of cars... but my Evo :smitten:is my life. i wont put down other cars on this forum, thats just me. we all need to just get along.

x_srt4_x
11-10-2005, 02:39 PM
I love my mountain bike. It has adjusters for different gears, mine is better than yours!

x_srt4_x
11-10-2005, 02:43 PM
http://www.abc-of-mountainbiking.com/images/pics/anatomy-mountain-bike.gif

See that! Show quality.......

Blaze
11-10-2005, 02:47 PM
See that! Show quality.......


Where are the training wheels?

x_srt4_x
11-10-2005, 02:58 PM
I forgot about that! Dammit!

WavMixer
11-11-2005, 03:48 PM
date=1131658791]
I love my mountain bike. It has adjusters for different gears, mine is better than yours!

Wanna race me?

http://store1.yimg.com/I/yhst-44576115461736_1870_6577371



See that! Show quality.......


Where are the training wheels?
We don't need no stinking training wheels!!!

x_srt4_x
11-11-2005, 04:45 PM
date=1131658791]
I love my mountain bike. It has adjusters for different gears, mine is better than yours!

Wanna race me?

http://store1.yimg.com/I/yhst-44576115461736_1870_6577371



See that! Show quality.......


Where are the training wheels?
We don't need no stinking training wheels!!!



Im envy you, nice bike..........

Orbit
11-11-2005, 10:50 PM
I can't explain it...must've been all the drugs - I actually bought an '04 SRT-4 w/LSD as a 2nd car to my Evo - no illusions that it was better, just another turbo car to drive from A/B so I didn't have to drive my Evo Everywhere. Drove it up into the canyons one weekend, almost died due to the crappy stock chassis tuning - sold it right away - got off drugs.

WavMixer
11-12-2005, 12:11 AM
I can't explain it...must've been all the drugs - I actually bought an '04 SRT-4 w/LSD as a 2nd car to my Evo - no illusions that it was better, just another turbo car to drive from A/B so I didn't have to drive my Evo Everywhere. Drove it up into the canyons one weekend, almost died due to the crappy stock chassis tuning - sold it right away - got off drugs.
Altough you can make a SRT-4 fast, you can take it to canyon, but you can't make it carve.

Bills Evo
11-12-2005, 01:08 AM
I'll tell ya'll what, life is too short to be a jerk to someone who happens to drive a different car. I don't particularly care for people with shitty attitudes but that's what makes this country great, freedom of attitude uhh I mean speech. O0

cascosblueevo
11-28-2005, 11:23 PM
Evos just flat kick ass, end of story. :twisted:

hahaha how cute

rammsteinmatt
11-29-2005, 12:26 AM
http://store1.yimg.com/I/yhst-44576115461736_1870_6577371


silly wav.....

everyone knows FWD sucks, we learned that as a child (some aparently didnt though)

GokuSSJ4
11-29-2005, 11:15 AM
who saids, FWD cant corner
http://www.forum.turbocrime.co.uk/images/avatars/gallery/Cars/drifting.gif

airforce1
11-30-2005, 03:31 PM
Wave for Gov


Next thing you know, he will say SRT-4s are for girly men... :2funny:

rsmatt
12-02-2005, 08:10 PM
ok i am coming out of the closet............. i also have a SRT-4 in the household :oops:. ITS MY GIRLFREINDS CAR and its about half the car the evo is period. on the plus side though i do have to say that the dodge dealer we go through for service on the car is A++. any thing that car needs is taken car of with no questions at all plus they wash the car and fill it up every time she takes it in. car evo>str-4 service srt-4>>>>>>>>>evo

rammsteinmatt
12-02-2005, 08:12 PM
i also have a SRT-4 in the household :oops:. ITS MY GIRLFREINDS CAR


'nuff said


you didnt need all that extra irrelevant info O0 :grin:

EVOla_VIRUS
12-02-2005, 08:46 PM
I believe that on the 7th day, God created the Hemi.


Sorry to correct you but He created the Small Block....then with some aftershavings of the block, he found time for the Hemi* * ^-^

As far as SRT-4's go..i like them...i think its awsome that staged kits are out for them like the s3r and the suspension coilovers from Mopar. Words are just words and if anyone really feels their $hit talking is justified, then take it to the track* :-P

johnny
12-05-2005, 08:17 PM
Wave for Gov


WAV Ill write you in the ballot over here in Texas.

htoudiee
01-11-2006, 01:14 PM
From an SRT Owner:) : Fair enough. well put. makes sense 100%.

EDM
01-19-2006, 04:55 PM
Well put, I have no beef with anyone. I enjoy anything from a cleanly modded Civic to even a street rod. We all have the same interest the way I look at it.

travelinman53
01-23-2006, 05:33 PM
SRT4's are sweet, just not as sweet as the Evo's. Some of em are really. I mean really quick. At Buttonwillow for the last Time Attack in November there was an SRT4 with Michigan mfg. plates that was braking as late or later than most of the other cars like Skylines, modded Evos and STI's and coming out faster than them so they can be made to do alot of things, even with their front wheel drive. However they may not last as long as Evo's and the like cuz that $10K price difference has to cost them something doesn't it?

Macky
01-24-2006, 11:37 PM
http://www.xtreme2k2.com/upload/uploads/neon.jpg

;)