Track challenge from a Supercharged M3: who's game?

[alex_alex]

http://forum.e46fanatics.com/showthread.php?p=3979677#post3979677

[j_nizzle]

this would be sweet for a track junkie with good times....gas, entrance fee, and a day's salary!!! i say do it whoever has the car for it....

[wj4]

this would be sweet for a track junkie with good times....gas, entrance fee, and a day's salary!!! i say do it whoever has the car for it....

i got the initial d songs for whoever goes! it pumps u up like no other man. i know there are some evos on here that can take the cake:D

[rino]

invite him to an EOC event

[gofaster87]

That guy is a jackass.

[[p]dOG.]

As much as i love the swedish pancakes at IHOP, how about NO?
-alex-alex


that cracked me up!!!! made my mourning :2funny: "spank his a$$" :twisted:

[Justin1933]

I think you should have Ken show up with the RRC Evo..lol

[thugline]

M3's are a waste of money. For the price of an M3 you can buy an evo and mod the shit out of it and make it quicker than a modded M3 O0

[alex_alex]

I think you should have Ken show up with the RRC Evo..lol


should i set this up? now im really regretting selling the evo. lol. John, if you're seeing this, maybe you'd be interested in getting in on the action.

[GokuSSJ4]

I think you should have Ken show up with the RRC Evo..lol


should i set this up? now im really regretting selling the evo. lol. John, if you're seeing this, maybe you'd be interested in getting in on the action.

you don't even need the RRC (race evo) for such things as this , i'm sure that John's personal car would be more then enough for this challenge....

[Tarmac02]

Just let John drive Gokums car...

[silvery_eagle]

alex_alex.. it's time to leave the BMW forum... u have an evo... :D

[alex_alex]

alex_alex.. it's time to leave the BMW forum... u have an evo... :D

haha.

[wj4]

M3's are a waste of money. For the price of an M3 you can buy an evo and mod the shit out of it and make it quicker than a modded M3 O0

you dont buy an m3 for just power...its the mix of luxury, styling, power, handling. its still impressive how they can pump out 330hp in that inline 6 n/a motor. if u think this way, mind as well say evo is a waste of money because for less than half the price, u can buy a civic and do a swap and force induction it....

[Terry S]

To me it sounds like the challenge extends to Alex and him driving his car only...

Terry S

[kipper215]

It's corn cob brain kats like that, which make me never want to buy an M3. At the la auto show I spoke with a guy from dinan and they had an M3 with all the mods they make and it only 469 crankHP and the mods cost 70K. I'm sorry but, only a dickhead with very low self esteem would pay for something like that. *On another note most BMW owners are dickheads and use there car to define who they are. I don't find them as people that are true enthusiasts. I've beaten many a M3 and a couple of late model M5's up to 150MPH. The point is that it doesn't mean anything.
There will always be a person out there with a car quicker than yours. If you are buying a car for the purpose of being better than someone YOU ARE A DICKHEAD!
Some of the post are just too funny. quote "my car is a panty dropper" it's sad to see that a person is so lame to think a car is the only way a chick will sleep with them but, hey it's a BMW owner!

[thugline]

It's corn cob brain kats like that, which make me never want to buy an M3. At the la auto show I spoke with a guy from dinan and they had an M3 with all the mods they make and it only 469 crankHP and the mods cost 70K. I'm sorry but, only a dickhead with very low self esteem would pay for something like that.* On another note most BMW owners are dickheads and use there car to define who they are. I don't find them as people that are true enthusiasts. I've beaten many a M3 and a couple of late model M5's up to 150MPH. The point is that it doesn't mean anything.
There will always be a person out there with a car quicker than yours. If you are buying a car for the purpose of being better than someone YOU ARE A DICKHEAD!
Some of the post are just too funny. quote "my car is a panty dropper" it's sad to see that a person is so lame to think a car is the only way a chick will sleep with them but, hey it's a BMW owner!

Very well* put my good friend. I agree with everything you are saying. I too beatin M3's with there stupid bitches in their overpriced slow ass ride. I was driving to RRE 1 day and I was @ an intersection waiting for the light to turn green and a white M3 pulled up next to me w/ sum model looking chick and the driver looked @ me and said "your car is slow and you couldn't beat me from a roll or a dig cuz your car is stock"(his bitch was laughing @ the same time). Next thing I know the light was about to turn green and I was getting ready to launch on this a$$hole and the next thing that happen was me watching him in my sideview mirror buslengths ahead of him off the launch.

We meet up again @ the next intersection a half mile down from where I murder his M3 and he pulls up next to me and he says"Damn bro what do you got in there?" I said "I'm bone stock" and his bitch says"I like your car!" and before we went our seperate ways he told me that he wants an evo now and I just started laughing. :2funny: :mitsu:

[SpdyEvo02]

To me it sounds like the challenge extends to Alex and him driving his car only...

Terry S

yah if alex still had is car thats why he needs someone to race for him

[Dmoney]

I love how they compare their cars to there penis size Any car can be fast, but its the pimp factor that gets you laid.....lol......not that I need a car to seal the deal, but it does make it that much easier......hahaha The Pimp Factor that gets me laid? no shit because your penis is microscopic?

Stay the fk on topic when comparing cars. It pisses me off when in the heat of a debate about which car is inferior/superior the fuckin "Penis Factor comes in" The fact that they are debating the the M3 dominates the Evo doesnt phase me...The fact that when put into a corner when it comes to performance they pull out the "women want to fuck my car because its pimp" STFU!BMW's have there reputation. I will not haze on that. Mitsubishi has a reputation....from making T.V's to fckin making world rally championship cars, to winning the Dakar Rally 6 consecutive years in a row with a fckin Pajero!? M3s are nice. M3s have there titles and reputation in the racing world...Evos have a reputation in the racing world. We may not be the LUXURY GURU'S of the world but we know how to kick your ass on the grass, tarmac, gravel, snow, and all of the above. Actually Pegeuot and Citogen are kicking our ass but still!

the moral of the rant is...stay the fk on topic when it comes to comparing cars...
if you want to compare penis sizes let me know...i got a fkin wooden ruler that measures in meters if you want compare.

[Terry S]

if you want to compare penis sizes let me know...i got a fkin wooden ruler that measures in meters if you want compare.


Hilarious.

Terry S

[BHCevo]

With all due respect to BMW owners on this site, who here in LA thinks owning a BMW makes you special?

I can't swing a dead cat without hitting 3 bimmers and a handful of mercedes. Everyone who can beg, borrow, steal or sell their grandma is leasing a 3-series or C-class in greater los angeles. OC is even worse/better.

Any 3-series is a great car but anyone who is basking in its presumed rarity here in socal has gone BLIND.

M3s aren't sooo common, but an M3 is a helluva lot closer to a big engine 3-series than an evolution is to a lancer.

For what its worth, girls aint so impressed anymore when your 325/328/330 bimmer is as common on the roads in socal as civic hybrids are in the Bay Area.

[silvery_eagle]

true that...even if you are blind folded on the freeway in that area driving.. the first car you hit will be either civic, corrola, 3 series or a c-class

[wj4]

true that...even if you are blind folded on the freeway in that area driving.. the first car you hit will be either civic, corrola, 3 series or a c-class

we have a new runner up also....tC!

[tama_mog]

that's why you get a nice bmw or mercedes to distinguish yourself more. You are correct, it's pretty common to see a bunch of mercedes and bmws in CA but there are a couple that's more distinguished.

[leaveit2bevo]

put rich in elijahs car and he will spank that mofo around streets without even trying

[BHCevo]

that's why you get a nice bmw or mercedes to distinguish yourself more. You are correct, it's pretty common to see a bunch of mercedes and bmws in CA but there are a couple that's more distinguished.


I used to be impressed when I saw a 500 designator on* a benz now its like ho-hum. Big engine 7 series are the only things I don't see _that_ often....and thats probably because if you are spending that kind of stupid money a monster engine mercedes is more garishly satisfying.

That and those 7 series are so damn large you better have a chauffeur to handle the hassle of parking it.

Haha...lotta great cars out there in socal I'm always scratching my head at how people afford em. Go most anywhere else in the country and all those beamers and mercedes become much rarer.

[Terry S]

that's why you get a nice bmw or mercedes to distinguish yourself more. You are correct, it's pretty common to see a bunch of mercedes and bmws in CA but there are a couple that's more distinguished.


I used to be impressed when I saw a 500 designator on a benz now its like ho-hum. Big engine 7 series are the only things I don't see _that_ often....and thats probably because if you are spending that kind of stupid money a monster engine mercedes is more garishly satisfying.

That and those 7 series are so damn large you better have a chauffeur to handle the hassle of parking it.

Haha...lotta great cars out there in socal I'm always scratching my head at how people afford em. Go most anywhere else in the country and all those beamers and mercedes become much rarer.


Its a % thing. OC has a grotesquely high cost of living. When you can afford the payments on a 1.5 million dollar house, whats another grand a month for a 90k car? Hell, thats only 6.6% of your income if you have a household making 15k a month.

Compare that to someone making 5k a month (household) and making the payments on a 250k house. Doesn't leave much left for a car payment.

Terry S

[tama_mog]

Spending the stupid $$ on these cars sometimes is buying more than you realize. *To a lot of people, comfort, luxury, and the name brand is important both in both the personal and business aspect. *To me it's more like buying designer clothes and some aren't the worst performers as you would think for luxury cars as well. *They're just not raw cars like the evo.

[kipper215]

people who drive benzo's are a little bit different. you never hear of a person in a c320 or c350 trying to race an EVO. even the E-class. for them the car is a symbol of success. Also they don't look at the car the same way we do. To them it's luxury or flawsen the life of luxury ( a lot of those people are in car payment HELL) they don't race around town, they cruise around town so they can be seen ( makes me want to throw up) the typical bmw owner is a hater. here's why:

they'er all gast up on the ultimate driving machine commercials ( smoking crack while watching them)
car and driver/road & track falsify garbbage articles with massive exaggeration. *they make it seem as if nothing can beat a bimmer (crack smoking owners believe that bullshit)
they watched a few bond movies and think the car can do what they see i the movie(also smoking crack while watching the movies)

they get hotter than fish grease when they get out ran by a car that cost 10's of thousands less!
(priceless!)

[DTunedEvoX]

My brother just bought an M3 ... Is comming from a S2K and hes not stuckup like some of the M3 owners that I know ... I know a few e36 owners who also arent stuck up or feel like they own teh greatest car on earth ...

It just seems theres a handful more cocky owners and dickheads that own BMW's ...
Oh btw- who the hell ever pulls up to another car and say "I'm going to beat you cause your stock?" LOL common now! LOL

[BHCevo]

Spending the stupid $$ on these cars sometimes is buying more than you realize. *To a lot of people, comfort, luxury, and the name brand is important both in both the personal and business aspect. *To me it's more like buying designer clothes and some aren't the worst performers as you would think for luxury cars as well. *They're just not raw cars like the evo.


If you (you meaning someone) can afford it and its worth something to you go for it. And if its helpful personally or professionally then even more power. Although the "business helpful" aspect I suspect occurs more in the mind of the owner than the minds of his peers. Theres a recent thread on evom thats arguing this very point, actually. And truth be told, if having the right clothes or car or watch or whatever gives you the confidence you need then it really is pricelessly useful. But another person could have gotten the job done without those things.

My suspicion is that you have to rise to some pretty _rarified_ heights of Business Mountain before the trappings of wealth become an absolute necessity to getting the job done.

[Macky]

its like comparing apples and oranges guys. get over it.

the M3 is a fine, performance and luxury sedan.

the Evo is a purpose-built, high-performance compact sedan.


do the math: get Evo vs M3 argument, subtract penis envy, add common sense, and you end up with two totally different machines being compared against one another.

if he wants to call out anyone to the track to prove a childish point, then let him look like a fool for doing so. who's more of a fool? the fool or the fool who follows him?

this evo vs M3 debate is as old as the Evo vs WRX debate.

[tama_mog]

Spending the stupid $$ on these cars sometimes is buying more than you realize. To a lot of people, comfort, luxury, and the name brand is important both in both the personal and business aspect. To me it's more like buying designer clothes and some aren't the worst performers as you would think for luxury cars as well. They're just not raw cars like the evo.


If you (you meaning someone) can afford it and its worth something to you go for it. And if its helpful personally or professionally then even more power. Although the "business helpful" aspect I suspect occurs more in the mind of the owner than the minds of his peers. Theres a recent thread on evom thats arguing this very point, actually. And truth be told, if having the right clothes or car or watch or whatever gives you the confidence you need then it really is pricelessly useful. But another person could have gotten the job done without those things.

My suspicion is that you have to rise to some pretty _rarified_ heights of Business Mountain before the trappings of wealth become an absolute necessity to getting the job done.


As much as we like to think the world is equal and without bias, it exists in everyone and every situation. Imagine this situation, you are young and trying to do big sales and business and show up every time to customer's doorsteps/trade shows or take customers around in your Mitsubishi compared to a luxury car. Which one gives you a better image (aka dependability) to do business with? I already said they are two seperate cars and from the other thread I said people like that guy on the bmw forums make the luxury car owners look bad. But I've also said there's 2 sides to every coin, for every idiot mouthing off and being proud of a european luxury car there is a ricer doing the same thing on the imports.

[gofaster87]

Funny that BCHEvo claims that the same job could be done for less. He obviously doesnt* know how upper management operates in companies dealing with billions of dollars. Try coming out to vegas and dealing with a casino executive. Drive him to lunch in your Evo and I guarrantee you He will think twice about what you are saying. Expensive luxury cars are bought for many reasons but not just for the reason of making making ones self feel better, some people will do this. They are used to portray an image of success and this is how large companies work. By the way my wife works at MGM and she told me their fleet of Maybachs is pretty impressive. I dont think whales and high rollers want to be driven around in evos. People also buy these cars because most of the time you are buying quality and comfort, something the Evo lacks because it is more of a track junkie car. I know tama personally and he is far from the type of person that needs to make himself feel better with material items. He runs a large company that plays host to many big business figures domestically and abroad from China. A honda civic, as well as an Evo, is not suited for these situations. By the way an E55 is a very nice car and well worth the money.

[Macky]

By the way an E55 is a very nice car and well worth the money.


i agree. one of my coworkers has one here at work and gave me a ride in it.

i shit you not i wanted to trade in my car after that ride.

[Knower]

My suspicion is that you have to rise to some pretty _rarified_ heights of Business Mountain before the trappings of wealth become an absolute necessity to getting the job done.


There's a significant difference between getting the job done and getting it done as well as possible in terms of both the personal and company gain. Sometimes you have to spend money/effort to make money, and not always in the most direct of ways.

[BHCevo]

Funny that BCHEvo claims that the same job could be done for less. He obviously doesnt *know how upper management operates in companies dealing with billions of dollars. Try coming out to vegas and dealing with a casino executive. Drive him to lunch in your Evo and I guarrantee you He will think twice about what you are saying. Expensive luxury cars are bought for many reasons but not just for the reason of making making ones self feel better, some people will do this. They are used to portray an image of success and this is how large companies work. By the way my wife works at MGM and she told me their fleet of Maybachs is pretty impressive. I dont think whales and high rollers want to be driven around in evos. People also buy these cars because most of the time you are buying quality and comfort, something the Evo lacks because it is more of a track junkie car. I know tama personally and he is far from the type of person that needs to make himself feel better with material items. He runs a large company that plays host to many big business figures domestically and abroad from China. A honda civic, as well as an Evo, is not suited for these situations. By the way an E55 is a very nice car and well worth the money.


No intent here to imply that tama needs a luxury car to make himself feel better. I like to think that we are all man enough to admit that we are vulnerable to the placebo affect, in principle. Myself included. Also note that I didn't say that it wasn't helpful, just that it _usually_ was not an _absolute necessity_. Note my careful use of qualifiers.

Look at Spud Webb (sp?). Five foot seven and he was an outstanding basketball player. Sure he's a one in a thousand exception, and you better have some mad skillz if you wanna play ball at 5'7". Similarly, if you wanna do deals with casino executives you better be crazy good if you are gonna roll in a camry, or god forbid, an evo. But I bet it can be done. Anyone who insists that it can't, _under any circumstance_, is at least in part uttering a lie to make themselves feel (ever so slightly) better.

For the record, I'd love to have an E55. Can you AMG it twice?

[BHCevo]

My suspicion is that you have to rise to some pretty _rarified_ heights of Business Mountain before the trappings of wealth become an absolute necessity to getting the job done.


There's a significant difference between getting the job done and getting it done as well as possible in terms of both the personal and company gain. Sometimes you have to spend money/effort to make money, and not always in the most direct of ways.


agreed

[kipper215]

Funny that BCHEvo claims that the same job could be done for less. He obviously doesnt *know how upper management operates in companies dealing with billions of dollars. Try coming out to vegas and dealing with a casino executive. Drive him to lunch in your Evo and I guarrantee you He will think twice about what you are saying. Expensive luxury cars are bought for many reasons but not just for the reason of making making ones self feel better, some people will do this. They are used to portray an image of success and this is how large companies work. By the way my wife works at MGM and she told me their fleet of Maybachs is pretty impressive. I dont think whales and high rollers want to be driven around in evos. People also buy these cars because most of the time you are buying quality and comfort, something the Evo lacks because it is more of a track junkie car. I know tama personally and he is far from the type of person that needs to make himself feel better with material items. He runs a large company that plays host to many big business figures domestically and abroad from China. A honda civic, as well as an Evo, is not suited for these situations. By the way an E55 is a very nice car and well worth the money.


to respond to that I have a friend in vegas that is a regional sales exec. for allied demick wines. his job is to wine an dine casino and large business execs to promote sales. you know what he drove.....A FORD EXPLORER. so sorry my friend but, that theory is straight BULLSHIT. when i went to visit him he got me, my wife, and his brother in to all the top spots in vegas without waiting and FREE. how, because his game was fuckin tight. he even has picture with the drunk ass mayor of vegas teaching him how to open a wine bottle with a saber. people care about their pocket books when it comes to business. the casino thinks a ride in a maybach is a small price to pay for a chump to come and lose a mil 3 at the crap table. the average person has to catch a frickin CAB! or drive their own sh*t. don't cover for these kats playa! *buying a fancy car is a personal choice but, it's what you do with it that matters! tama doesn't drive his E55 around looking for people to race! the problem I find is that everytime I come across an M3 or an M5 they trying to smash on me why. because it's an evo. there has to be an intimidation factor. *I never have this problem with kats that drive benzo's or ferrari's. that's why I'm pissed. it's never fails they come out of the wood work like roaches when the lights are out. I know not everyone is like but, there are a lot of them that are.

[gofaster87]

The theory is far from bullshit. There are exceptions because Ive seen and heard stories showing the complete opposite. By the way because someone loses 3 million at a table doesnt make them a chump. Some people can afford to lose that much money and dont care.

[j_nizzle]

so it anyone going to race this guy?

[tama_mog]

I dunno, it really depends on the people you deal with. *I'm sure there are a lot of people that I deal with that wouldn't mind if I drove a civic from the early 80s but the problem is some people truly do and can't see through a business deal if everything doesn't go smooth from top to bottom. *But gofaster isn't bsing @ all, there are just certain people out there looking for things like that as insurance to being legit. *Kinda like if you go to someone's distribution center and one is in the middle of the ghettos and another one is in a nice business park. *You can't help to feel slanted toward one direction....just human nature.

But back to the pt, I would like to see someone with some decent track experience to shut this guy up as well with an evo. That's always fun to see....like when I saw kent pass the vipers @ laguna seca =D

[wj4]

I dunno, it really depends on the people you deal with. I'm sure there are a lot of people that I deal with that wouldn't mind if I drove a civic from the early 80s but the problem is some people truly do and can't see through a business deal if everything doesn't go smooth from top to bottom. But gofaster isn't bsing @ all, there are just certain people out there looking for things like that as insurance to being legit. Kinda like if you go to someone's distribution center and one is in the middle of the ghettos and another one is in a nice business park. You can't help to feel slanted toward one direction....just human nature.

But back to the pt, I would like to see someone with some decent track experience to shut this guy up as well with an evo. That's always fun to see....like when I saw kent pass the vipers @ laguna seca =D



lol i agree, there are jerks in all sorts of cars...around here my friend is a pretty big a-hole in his benz. he had an e55 amg until it was totaled and he had the cls55 for a while until it got totaled too. he would drive on the wrong side of the street in the incoming traffic lanes to race someone. rice...its not what u drive, its a state of mind:)

[ANTHONY]

This has gone way of topic. So is anyone going shut bmw guy up at the track?

[MyGlue]

Why dont we have a socalevo.net vs. e46fanatics track day show down?

[GokuSSJ4]

put rich in elijahs car and he will spank that mofo around streets without even trying

even elijah himself would spank the M3, the mofo has been able to achieve 1:28's with his new adquired set up at streets of willow

[rino]

not a lot of people on that site would support that jackass

anyways, if we have a socalevo vs. e46fanatics i would participate

[atlvalet]

Someone with a stockish car and a mueller set-up should wipe his ass all over whatever track it is they end up racing on.

[ChrisF]

Could someone please just hire Mueller for a day to destroy this idiot. I would make the first donation. The laughs alone would be more than worth it. :D

[Senshi]

i find it really silly to challenge people at track events. since there are so meny differant things that will make you fast around a track: driver, car, car setup, tires. In all honisty if you guys want to prove this guy that his car isnt the fastest thing in the world just have him sign up to a track event, any track event, if its not going to be one of the meny Mullerized evos that will be faster then him (since they always seem to be the fastest cars at most of the track events ive been too) it will be some other japanese car like a nicely setup s2000 that will.