Got a correctable 27151a ticket...swapped exhausts CHP wont sign off..<updated>

[Howie]

Yup... got a correctable exhaust ticket with my old RSR GT exhaust, so I swapped it to a quiet Fujitsubo RM01a. Took it to the CHP office, and the cop wouldn't sign off on it. Told me I have to take it to a ref station. So now I have an appointment with Ref station coming up. Any suggestions?


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Just got back from ref station/court, see details in post below:

[xEviLxVIIIx]

if the ticket is just for the noise, then the ref. will only test for noise. they wont inspect anything else.

[speedracer2169]

Is the ticket just for the exhaust? You can take it to a police station and they may sign that off for you

[Howie]

if the ticket is just for the noise, then the ref. will only test for noise. they wont inspect anything else.


So I should be able to leave my hi flow cat on then?



Is the ticket just for the exhaust? You can take it to a police station and they may sign that off for you


Yes its just for the exhaust. I took it to a CHP station but the dickhead refused to sign off on it. He didn't even look at my car!

[xEviLxVIIIx]

you have to take it to the ref, so they can test it for noise. once it passes then he will put a sticker on the back of the ticket. then it can be signed off or at court.

[Mr.Evolution8 AKA Mr. Evo]

yea just leave it on unless you feel it wont pass the DB,i took my exhaust off just to be safe.

[andykin]

Yup... got a correctable exhaust ticket with my old RSR GT exhaust, so I swapped it to a quiet Fujitsubo RM01a. Took it to the CHP office, and the cop wouldn't sign off on it. Told me I have to take it to a ref station. So now I have an appointment with Ref station coming up. I have a dp/hiflow cat and medium tint in my front windows. I was planning on putting my stock cat back on for the test, but not much I can do about my tint. Any suggestions?

Story of my life. Minus I don't have time to swap.

Also know this, Judge is going to rip you open. You will be fined around 200 dollars because it's no longer considered a correctable violation. Despite what the officer said / gave you. I have the same exact thing.

GL to you.

[trinydex]

take it to another chp station... wow

[Evo-8]

take it to another chp station... wow


qft....


btw police wont do it. u need to just take it to another chp station. And for christ sake put the stock cat back on.

[Howie]

Yup... got a correctable exhaust ticket with my old RSR GT exhaust, so I swapped it to a quiet Fujitsubo RM01a. Took it to the CHP office, and the cop wouldn't sign off on it. Told me I have to take it to a ref station. So now I have an appointment with Ref station coming up. I have a dp/hiflow cat and medium tint in my front windows. I was planning on putting my stock cat back on for the test, but not much I can do about my tint. Any suggestions?

Story of my life. Minus I don't have time to swap.

Also know this, Judge is going to rip you open. You will be fined around 200 dollars because it's no longer considered a correctable violation. Despite what the officer said / gave you. I have the same exact thing.

GL to you.



Looks like you were right andykin. Went to the state ref today, and passed with a 93dB sound reading. The ref signed off on it, gave me my paperwork and I went to court.

Once I got to court, I showed the clerk my paperwork, and they said it was a non-correctable violation, and that I would have to pay the $110 dollar fine (regardless that the ticket stated it was correctable).

I am now filling out the paperwork to request a trial by declaration.

[GokuSSJ4]

Yup... got a correctable exhaust ticket with my old RSR GT exhaust, so I swapped it to a quiet Fujitsubo RM01a.* Took it to the CHP office, and the cop wouldn't sign off on it.* Told me I have to take it to a ref station.* So now I have an appointment with Ref station coming up.* I have a dp/hiflow cat and medium tint in my front windows.* I was planning on putting my stock cat back on for the test, but not much I can do about my tint.* Any suggestions?

Story of my life. Minus I don't have time to swap.

Also know this, Judge is going to rip you open. You will be fined around 200 dollars because it's no longer considered a correctable violation. Despite what the officer said / gave you. I have the same exact thing.

GL to you.



Looks like you were right andykin.* Went to the state ref today,* and passed with a 93dB sound reading.* The ref signed off on it, gave me my paperwork and I went to court.

Once I got to court, I showed the clerk my paperwork, and they said it was a non-correctable violation, and that I would have to pay the $110 dollar fine (regardless that the ticket stated it was correctable).*

I am now filling out the paperwork to request a trial by declaration.

Got a correctable 27151a ticket
they stopped being correctable fines, like some one mention it. They stop that near 3-4 yrs ago, since what most people use to do is swap back there stock exhaust go to any CHP office (free of charge) or a sheriffs dept (10.00 charge ) and you would get the ticket sign off, then all you had to do is present the ticket to the clerk and pay off a 10.00 fee. Now it doesn't matter, it means that you pay a fine ..
Before it use to be 60.00 and if you would get pulled over again for the same violation the fine would almost double to 110.00 .
Now i guess the fine has gone up to 120.00
Howie
have you had an exhaust ticket prior to this one ? since that would explain why there charging 120.00 fee.. I hope it hasn't escalated to a standard fee of 120.00 :-(

[Howie]

This is my very first exhaust ticket of any kind in any vehicle. $109.50. Sucks!

[gen4k20a2]

take it to the ref....if you dont pass go back another day...its free anyways

[Terry S]

take it to the ref....if you dont pass go back another day...its free anyways


Check up 3 posts. He went to the ref, passed, but the judge told him its uncorrectable.

Terry S

[gen4k20a2]

oh chit....well if its marked correctable then thats what it is...if not then no skin off your back pay the fine and peace out. You dont get a ding on your insurance cause its not a moving violation

[thugline]

Any exhaust ticket is not a moving violation! :roll:

[Howie]

oh chit....well if its marked correctable then thats what it is...if not then no skin off your back pay the fine and peace out. You dont get a ding on your insurance cause its not a moving violation


Ya, but the point is that I am getting written up for modified exhaust ticket. It is not illegal to have a modified exhaust (as long as it is under 95dB) and I am getting fined for it. That means the next time they decide to pull me over and give me a ticket for a modified exhaust, I'll still have to pay for something that is not illegal, and the fine will have doubled!

[gen4k20a2]

hmm im going to look into it


check below if you want to fight the ticket....they have to prove it was still breaking the 95dec level i think

[gen4k20a2]

27150.* (a) Every motor vehicle subject to registration shall at all
times be equipped with an adequate muffler in constant operation and
properly maintained to prevent any excessive or unusual noise, and
no muffler or exhaust system shall be equipped with a cutout, bypass,
or similar device.
* *(b) Except as provided in Division 16.5 (commencing with Section
38000) with respect to off-highway motor vehicles subject to
identification, every passenger vehicle operated off the highways
shall at all times be equipped with an adequate muffler in constant
operation and properly maintained so as to meet the requirements of
Article 2.5 (commencing with Section 27200), and no muffler or
exhaust system shall be equipped with a cutout, bypass, or similar
device.
* *(c) The provisions of subdivision (b) shall not be applicable to
passenger vehicles being operated off the highways in an organized
racing or competitive event conducted under the auspices of a
recognized sanctioning body or by permit issued by the local
governmental authority having jurisdiction.



27150.1.* No person engaged in a business that involves the selling
of motor vehicle exhaust systems, or parts thereof, including, but
not limited to, mufflers, shall offer for sale, sell, or install, a
motor vehicle exhaust system, or part thereof, including, but not
limited to, a muffler, unless it meets the regulations and standards
applicable pursuant to this article.* Motor vehicle exhaust systems
or parts thereof include, but are not limited to, nonoriginal exhaust
equipment.
* *A violation of this section is a misdemeanor.



27150.2.* (a) Stations providing referee functions pursuant to
Section 44036 of the Health and Safety Code shall provide for the
testing of vehicular exhaust systems and the issuance of certificates
of compliance only for those vehicles that have received a citation
for a violation of Section 27150 or 27151.
* *(b) A certificate of compliance for a vehicular exhaust system
shall be issued pursuant to subdivision (a) if the vehicle complies
with Sections 27150 and 27151.* Exhaust systems installed on motor
vehicles, other than motorcycles, with a manufacturer's gross vehicle
weight rating of less than 6,000 pounds comply with Sections 27150
and 27151 if they emit no more than 95 dbA when tested in accordance
with Society of Automotive Engineers Standard J1169 May 1998.
* *(c) An exhaust system certificate of compliance issued pursuant to
subdivision (a) shall identify, to the extent possible, the make,
model, year, license number, and vehicle identification number of the
vehicle tested, and the make and model of the exhaust system
installed on the vehicle.
* *(d) The station shall charge a fee for the exhaust system
certificate of compliance issued pursuant to subdivision (a).* The
fee charged shall be calculated to recover the costs incurred by the
Department of Consumer Affairs to implement this section.* The fees
charged by the station shall be deposited in the Vehicle Inspection
and Repair Fund established by Section 44062 of the Health and Safety
Code.
* *(e) Vehicular exhaust systems are exempt from the requirements of
Sections 27150 and 27151 if compliance with those sections, or the
regulations adopted pursuant thereto, would cause an unreasonable
hardship without resulting in a sufficient corresponding benefit with
respect to noise level control.



27150.3.* (a) A person may not modify the exhaust system of a motor
vehicle with a whistle-tip.
* *(b) A person may not operate a motor vehicle if that vehicle's
exhaust system is modified in violation of subdivision (a).
* *(c) A person may not engage in the business of installing a
whistle-tip onto a motor vehicle's exhaust system.
* *(d) For purposes of subdivisions (a) and (c), a "whistle-tip" is a
device that is applied to, or is a modification of, a motor vehicle'
s exhaust pipe for the sole purpose of creating a high-pitched or
shrieking noise when the motor vehicle is operated.



27150.5.* Any person holding a retail seller's permit who sells or
installs an exhaust system, or part thereof, including, but not
limited to, a muffler, in violation of Section 27150.1 or 27150.2 or
the regulations adopted pursuant thereto, shall thereafter be
required to install an exhaust system, or part thereof, including,
but not limited to, a muffler, which is in compliance with such
regulations upon demand of the purchaser or registered owner of the
vehicle concerned, or to reimburse the purchaser or registered owner
for the expense of replacement and installation of an exhaust system,
or part thereof, including, but not limited to, a muffler, which is
in compliance, at the election of such purchaser or registered owner.




27150.7.* A court may dismiss any action in which a person is
prosecuted for operating a vehicle in violation of Section 27150 or
27151 if a certificate of compliance has been issued by a station
pursuant to Section 27150.2, or if the defendant had reasonable
grounds to believe that the exhaust system was in good working order
and had reasonable grounds to believe that the vehicle was not
operated in violation of Section 27150 or 27151.



27151.* (a) No person shall modify the exhaust system of a motor
vehicle in a manner which will amplify or increase the noise emitted
by the motor of the vehicle so that the vehicle is not in compliance
with the provisions of Section 27150 or exceeds the noise limits
established for the type of vehicle in Article 2.5 (commencing with
Section 27200).* No person shall operate a motor vehicle with an
exhaust system so modified.
* *(b) For the purposes of exhaust systems installed on motor
vehicles with a manufacturer's gross vehicle weight rating of less
than 6,000 pounds, other than motorcycles, a sound level of 95 dbA or
less, when tested in accordance with Society of Automotive Engineers
Standard J1169 May 1998, complies with this section.* Motor vehicle
exhaust systems or parts thereof include, but are not limited to,
nonoriginal exhaust equipment.

[gen4k20a2]

if they are giving you a ticket they just as well give every vendor a ticket too...thats sells these. Id love some vendor input on this

[trinydex]

heh... shhh....

then again vendors will just say they're for off road use only.

acutally the whole deal with getting a lawyer is that the judge knows he can't pull a quick one like that... cuz it's embarassing. you should come prepared with the legal documentation (the above stated code) and then show that to the judge. see since there's an authority chip here it's easy fo rhte judge to just slap his gavel and fuck you even tho you deserve better.

[gen4k20a2]

someone should sticky this and the tint law that i put up

[G20]

Damm! What is happenning to America these days. Sound like a higher level of corruption. Damm those terrorists changing our life. I want my liberty back. :-\