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moogle
06-15-2006, 01:48 PM
CNN.COM

Police don't have to knock, justices say
Alito's vote breaks 4-4 tie in police search case

Thursday, June 15, 2006; Posted: 11:15 a.m. EDT (15:15 GMT)

Writing for the majority, Justice Antonin Scalie called the failure to knock a "preliminary misstep."
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WASHINGTON (AP) -- The Supreme Court ruled Thursday that police armed with a warrant can barge into homes and seize evidence even if they don't knock, a huge government victory that was decided by President Bush's new justices.

The 5-4 ruling clearly signals the court's conservative shift following the departure of moderate Sandra Day O'Connor.

The case tested previous court rulings that police armed with warrants generally must knock and announce themselves or they run afoul of the Constitution's Fourth Amendment ban on unreasonable searches.

Justice Antonin Scalia, writing for the majority, said Detroit police acknowledge violating that rule when they called out their presence at a man's door then went inside three seconds to five seconds later.

"Whether that preliminary misstep had occurred or not, the police would have executed the warrant they had obtained, and would have discovered the gun and drugs inside the house," Scalia wrote.

But suppressing evidence is too high of a penalty, Scalia said, for errors by police in failing to properly announce themselves.

The outcome might have been different if O'Connor were still on the bench. She seemed ready, when the case was first argued in January, to rule in favor of Booker Hudson, whose house was searched in 1998.

O'Connor had worried aloud that officers around the country might start bursting into homes to execute search warrants. She asked: "Is there no policy of protecting the home owner a little bit and the sanctity of the home from this immediate entry?"

She retired before the case was decided, and a new argument was held so that Justice Samuel Alito could participate in deliberations. Alito and Bush's other Supreme Court pick, Chief Justice John Roberts, both supported Scalia's opinion.

Hudson's lawyers argued that evidence against him was connected to the improper search and could not be used against him.

Scalia said that a victory for Hudson would have given "a get-out-of-jail-free card" to him and others.

In a dissent, four justices complained that the decision erases more than 90 years of Supreme Court precedent.

"It weakens, perhaps destroys, much of the practical value of the Constitution's knock-and-announce protection," Justice Stephen Breyer wrote for himself and the three other liberal members.

Breyer said that police will feel free to enter homes without knocking and waiting a short time if they know that there is no punishment for it.

Justice Anthony M. Kennedy, a moderate, joined the conservatives in most of the ruling. He wrote his own opinion, however, to say "it bears repeating that it is a serious matter if law enforcement officers violate the sanctity of the home by ignoring the requisites of lawful entry."

gen4k20a2
06-15-2006, 02:02 PM
CNN = communist news network

silvery_eagle
06-15-2006, 02:07 PM
O'Connor had worried aloud that officers around the country might start bursting into homes to execute search warrants. She asked: "Is there no policy of protecting the home owner a little bit and the sanctity of the home from this immediate entry?"


what if they made a mistake and busting into a wrong house, while people inside are having sex etc....

gen4k20a2
06-15-2006, 02:13 PM
that would be awesome!

Chris in SD
06-15-2006, 02:52 PM
O'Connor had worried aloud that officers around the country might start bursting into homes to execute search warrants. She asked: "Is there no policy of protecting the home owner a little bit and the sanctity of the home from this immediate entry?"


what if they made a mistake and busting into a wrong house, while people inside are having sex etc....



That happens, the people sue and the PD or other LE organization settles out of court (just like when they have a car crash w/civilians).

This is a GOOD thing - I have been "present" for many warrant services and a "no-knock" is the best kind when dealing with 1) drugs, 2) violent offenders, 3) child porn/molestation suspects, or 4) cyber criminals. Given the knock, many of the above crooks can destroy/conceal/etc. a great deal of evidence. Sometimes, in the case of inept PDs, the crook does the literal "escape out the back door". Just like everything else these days, this ruling is being overdone - if someone has a warrant for your house, there is a HUGE chance that you deserve it.

Terry S
06-15-2006, 03:20 PM
This ruling is a good thing, not a bad thing.

Oh and all this stemed from a situation where they yelled out that the police was there, but they didn't knock before entering. So the person knew who they were and that they were there, but he didn't get the polite knock. The fact that this even had to goto trial is Gay.

Terry S

4G63 FEVER
06-16-2006, 01:00 PM
This ruling is a good thing, not a bad thing.

Oh and all this stemed from a situation where they yelled out that the police was there, but they didn't knock before entering. So the person knew who they were and that they were there, but he didn't get the polite knock. The fact that this even had to goto trial is Gay.

Terry S


The man speaks the truth and so does Chris In SD.* It's about time that the laws start to favor the people who enforce them for a change.* Granted there may be chances of things not working as planed but in the end it will most likely be a benefit not a step backwards.

silvery_eagle
06-16-2006, 01:12 PM
^+1
we still have freedom to do anything ... except crime