need a drive in a tme turbo'd car

[WOT]

Hello-

I am looking to get a drive in a 03-05 evo, using a 10.5 tme turbo while utilizing a cat & a 3" tbe. Doesnt really matter what cams.

I put a tme in a while back & quite honestly, it doesnt spool anywhere as like i was hoping.

I swapped out bov, mbc, leak chk, increased w/g preload tension, lower i/c pipe. The car makes good boost, its just laggy

you can drive my car too, to help give me a better perspective.

pm me or call me @ 661.294.7307

I prefer to conduct this test drive in the evening time, less traffic, cooler, my kids are asleep!

[MYFIRSTEVO]

Hey Aby, do you have cams? My car has 272/272 HKS and to my observation, my car doesn't pull hard on the bottom end. But top end wise... its a different story. Its definately quicker than stock turbo.

A tme work wonders with 264/264 straight but 272/272 its a little iffy. Have you dyno'd the car? maybe we can compare graph.

I'm not sure if you can actually feel the spools like you're hoping to, but my friend and I did a quick 3rd, 4th, 5th pull, we both have the same mods with the exception of me having the tme, and I was able to pull on him.

You're more than welcome to drive my car if you ever in town (OC).

A tme turbo has better spool than a stock 03-04 turbo, but I don't think you can actually feeeeelll the turbo kicking in other than your RPM smooothly and quickly rising from gear to gear.

=)

[WOT]

Hey Aby, do you have cams? Yes, hks 264's

[MYFIRSTEVO]

wow, with 264/264 you shouldn't feel any lag.

[MYFIRSTEVO]

maybe it's your tune? like I said, do you have any dyno graph?

[WOT]

no dyno graph, with either a xflash or with the aem i am currently running, the boost response isnt there.........? I am thinknig about advancing my cams a bit, since i can control my ign timing.

regardless, i would still like to drive anyone else's tme turbo'd car.

[MYFIRSTEVO]

hmm thats weird. I get instant boost response.

well let me know if you're around orange county... we can go for a ride

[GokuSSJ4]

is this after you took a small ride in my car.. how did that feel compare to yours ?
remember i have 272/280 cams.. top end they pull some what nice (i want more damn it!) i know i have a different turbo then you, but you figure it should be some what similar to your set up

[kipper215]

I think cams will make a big difference in how the tme will respond to throttle input. 272's and 280's are for more topend power. even thoe the TME spools really fast your power range will still depend on what cams you are using. 264's w/TME would be a killer setup for autocross.

[WOT]

hmm thats weird. I get instant boost response.
me too, above 4k

[WOT]

is this after you took a small ride in my car.. how did that feel compare to yours ?Yes. the top end power doesnt concern me, as i only have 264's in there now, its just i thought i would have decent boost by 3,500 in 2nd gear.

btw, i only had ~19lbs of boost when you went for a ride.....i have a hallman in there now, not much response difference over the oem solenoid via aem, then again, i didnt ask for 100% duty either from my solenoid.

maybe i am expecting too much? Thats another reason for going in a ride in someone else's car...more for a sanity check

[MYFIRSTEVO]

oh I think you are expecting a little tooo much out of the TME.

And also, forgot to mention... I have a full nisei intercooler piping. Hence the reason why I don't feel any lag. Stock IC piping sux... =p

[GokuSSJ4]

oh I think you are expecting a little tooo much out of the TME.

And also, forgot to mention... I have a full nisei intercooler piping. Hence the reason why I don't feel any lag. Stock IC piping sux... =p
i have the IX turbo and i have compare it against my old VIII turbo .. on the graph you can clearly see the difference in spool.. IX turbo OWNZ! LOL...

[MYFIRSTEVO]

gOku can you send me your graph? i wanna compare

[rammsteinmatt]

hmm thats weird. I get instant boost response.
me too, above 4k


sweet jesus. i was getting boost at 4k with stock exhaust, full cat and GT28 turbo.

you've got a good exhaust, and a smaller turbo. something's not adding up here

[WOT]

Here is a 2nd gear pull made today @ lunch

[gofaster87]

Oh comon that nesei piping wont make noticeable difference for nothing. I tried stock and aftermarket and there was barely a difference especially on a car making under 450.




oh I think you are expecting a little tooo much out of the TME.

And also, forgot to mention... I have a full nisei intercooler piping. Hence the reason why I don't feel any lag. Stock IC piping sux... =p

[MYFIRSTEVO]

well my "butt" dyno feels like it gave me a better spool and also smoother spool. I don't know if others feels the same way, but it is to me at least. =)

[gofaster87]

Yea butt dynos are pretty accurate.

[MYFIRSTEVO]

i guess so.

[WOT]

My post above has a 2nd gear pull, here is a real 3rd gear pull

[earlyapex]

I think cams will make a big difference in how the tme will respond to throttle input. 272's and 280's are for more topend power. even thoe the TME spools really fast your power range will still depend on what cams you are using. 264's w/TME would be a killer setup for autocross.


Tune cams right and you won't have to give up anything but gain everything. ;)

272/272 with cam gears at +1/-1 VS stock cams/gears:

http://www.norcalmotorsports.org/users/bryan/mods/EVO/dyno/120205/stockcamsVS272s.gif

[gofaster87]

Whom is deleting replies from this thread? I think we need to hang some of the mods.

[GokuSSJ4]

Whom is deleting replies from this thread? I think we need to hang some of the mods.
LOL an this time you can not blame me for crap ! LOL
anyways i need to dig my old sheet. to compare spool differences ....

[GokuSSJ4]

gOku can you send me your graph? i wanna compare
here you go
this is just a comparason of spool the car needed more tuning but you guys get the idea ...
Its mainly a VIII vs IX spool
http://www.socalevo.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10262/stock%20vs%20IX%20turbo.jpg

[GokuSSJ4]

here is the link in order to click and view in a larger scale.... you guys can see the differences in power with in spool... near 50-60tq & 40whp difference in power during spool..
http://www.socalevo.net/gallery/displayimage.php?album=46&pos=16

[WOT]

Tomas- what gear were your dyno runs performed in?

do you have a boost trace to go along with your power curve to?

[WOT]

I tried a few things today during lunch, retarded ign timing @ lower revs = create more heat to create a turbine effect.

2nd was advancing the intake cam timing from -2 => 0

so i was running 0 int / -2 exh

see plots below

both items were showed improvement, all 3 runs were performed within 30 minutes & all conducted on the same stretch of road.

[GokuSSJ4]

pulls where perform at TT on the dyno...
boost was very similar, all it was change was the turbo and the cam timing