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JB1
11-10-2004, 10:34 AM
Anyone attempt putting a downpipe on a 05' yet? I heard the Helix didn't fit correctly. Has anyone tried any other brands with success? I was gonna get a Apex one but thinking I should get a true JDM downpipe like Mines or Kansai. I hear the USDM's don't fit correctly because of something with the ACD. Can anyone confirm?
thanks.

hksevo8
11-10-2004, 11:29 AM
the 05's have a larger transfer case that causes aftermarket d/p's to rub. I am sure the the aftermarket is working to design and build the correct fitment for an 05. Most likely they will be available early next year.

Jamie@WORKS
11-10-2004, 01:08 PM
WORKS engineered our downpipe from the beginning with the world market in mind. By doing so, we are proud to say that both 70mm and 76mm Exhale Downpipes fit all the '05 models in addition to the '03 and '04s.

daimos
12-11-2004, 04:08 PM
i tried my apexi gt downpipe on my 05 rs just for the hell of it to see if it fits or not rather than taking everyones word for it. and im stoked that it actually fits.

evomr
12-21-2004, 12:49 AM
I bought the cheap down-pipe from ebay and fits to my 05 evo, no problem.
the pipe comes with 3" diameter, its only 70 dollars. looks nice too.

david buschur
12-22-2004, 08:53 AM
Our full 3" and 2.5" systems fit on the MR's and all '05's.

David Buschur
www.buschurracing.com

05-EVO-GSR
12-27-2004, 07:58 PM
The DC Sports Downpipe fits like a glove and clears the factory tie bars with no spacers.

GReddySetGO
01-03-2005, 07:12 PM
OK, I'm in the market for a downpipe right now, just wondering which one I should get and why. Which one do you have and how do you like it? There are so many DP's on the market now, I don't know which one to get.

I'm looking for a full 3" DP to match my 3" exhaust. One that replaces the cat would be nice, but I don't want a CEL. So I wouldn't mind one that doesn't replace it, or if it did if it had some kind of O2 simulator or something. Anyhow, here are some of the diffrent ones I've been looking at:

A'PEXi GT/N1 downpipe. What size are these and whats the diffrence between the two, besides the material they're made out of?

DC Sports downpipe. What size is this? It says it eliminates the cat, but will this cause a CEL? Or does it come with something to fix that?

HKS downpipe. What size is this, and I believe it does not eliminate the cat, correct?

Injen downpipe. Same questions, what size is it, does it eliminate the cat?

Megan Racing downpipe. This one says its 3", but does it eliminate the cat?

Perrin 3" downpipe. This one does not eliminate the cat, but they do sell a cat eliminater w/ O2 simulator. What are your opinions on this?

RS-R downpipe. This one is 80mm, but does it eliminate the cat?

Tanabe downpipe. Size and cat?

I think thats pretty much it. Are there any other good ones that I missed that you recommend? So thats basically it, I'm looking for a 3" DP, prefferabley if it eliminates the cat, but only if I won't get a CEL. Otherwise one that doesn't eliminate it is OK. And price is a factor, so one that will get the job done and cost the least would be ideal. I don't care about material much since no one will see it anyway. Well thanks in advance, any input on this would be appreciated.

JanSolo
01-03-2005, 07:27 PM
Surprise! I really like the WORKS ceramic coated 3" downpipe. It fits the 03, 04 and 05 Evos perfectly and even works with the stock cat.

Absinthe
01-03-2005, 07:57 PM
would caution against 3" with stock cat and the works piece is just too expensive.

You should look at what you want to do long term and then choose your DP, if you plan to stay with a stock turbo this will affect your choice, so will $$, and whether or not you plan to use: stock cat, Hiflow cat, or no cat will also come into play, also if you have an 05 some wont fit (ie helix, megan).

Most if not all downpipes wont eliminate any cat on an EVO, keep that in mind.

Once you answer all of the above questions then you will have narrowed it down and can make your call based on prefference, and whose Koolaid you drink.

moogle
01-03-2005, 08:02 PM
if no cat there will be a cell. You can easily fix that with taking the battery out once in a while or splicing or get a new o2 sensor.

You forgot

buschur

rmr

I suggest RMR downpipe, or apex.

trannb
01-03-2005, 08:12 PM
I don't care about material much since no one will see it anyway.

With the downpipe, material is a bit more important than other parts of the exhaust. A mild steel downpipe that is not ceramic coated nor thermal wrapped will heat up your oil pan. Stainless steel is a much better thermal insulator. Wrapped Stainless steel is even better.

For low cost, custom fabrication is the way to go.

Chris in SD
01-03-2005, 09:42 PM
The RMR DP is stainless and comes with a heat shield to apply to the oil pan.

GReddySetGO
01-04-2005, 03:07 AM
This will most likely be kept with the stock turbo. I would really like to eliminate the cat also all in one piece. Otherwise I could just stick with it for a while and change it out later with a test pipe or something. I just need to make sure I don't get a CEL.

So I guess for now, 3" DP w/ stock cat. Low cost preffered, what are my options?

trannb
01-04-2005, 03:55 AM
Cheapest: Have a muffler shop make you an extra long downpipe out of SS (perhaps bring your own with the flange too). Then get the $50 O2 sensor eliminator.

Cheap: Same as above but have a performance oriented shop do it.

Roughly average price: Get a Helix downpipe and test pipe as well as the O2 sensor eliminator. They're pretty.

You have too much money: Buy it all from Works. You paid the money, but it will fit both the newer and older Evos.

You have ever more than too much money: Make it all out of Inconel and make sure the bend is one of those JDM origami weld jobs.

Nebolic
01-04-2005, 10:18 AM
wait so the HKS downpipe is street legal?

thought everything before the cat was non-street legal?

Nebo

JB1
01-04-2005, 11:29 AM
I just purchased the Fujitsubo one. Still need to install it. I looked at most of the ones you listed and by far the Fujitsubo construction is superior to those in the welds.

GReddySetGO
01-04-2005, 03:59 PM
by far the Fujitsubo construction is superior to those in the welds.
How does the Fujitsubo have superior welds? You've seen the welds of all of the above posted downpipes up close before?

Boosted
01-04-2005, 04:03 PM
RS-R is an extended downpipe so it will delete the cat

JB1
01-04-2005, 05:36 PM
by far the Fujitsubo construction is superior to those in the welds.
How does the Fujitsubo have superior welds? You've seen the welds of all of the above posted downpipes up close before?

Just my opinion. And yes I have seen the others. Took me 3 months to decide which one to go with. I think the RS-R one though is pretty nice. You asked for peeps opinions and I gave it.

trannb
01-04-2005, 07:04 PM
Does the RS-R have any type of O2 simulator?

Downpipes don't have O2 simulators. You normally have to buy them separate.

Luckily, there are a few options:

1) Buy a $50 get-rid-of-your-CEL box
2) Buy some anti-foul bung things and hope they work
3) DIY: http://www.vfaq.com/mods/O2bypass.html

Old knowledge is good.

Gear Grinder
01-04-2005, 08:02 PM
Surprise! I really like the WORKS ceramic coated 3" downpipe. It fits the 03, 04 and 05 Evos perfectly and even works with the stock cat.
Works products are extreemly well made, if you can afford it, get it.
If not the Apexi 3" GT is a really nice option. It's a perfect fit, and it comes with an insulation wrap.

DrMerl
01-07-2005, 01:15 AM
I've just got my Fujitsubo DP about 1K miles ago, I love it =)

My goals are modest as far as power, I'll be sticking with the OE turbo till it fails, then just get whatever upgrade is avail for the stocker. I thought I'd try the 2.7" diameter. The welds are beautiful with a light gold hue, the rear flange is invesment cast (heat resistance, durability, better seal to the cat) and the front is a smooth, well shaped exhaust "horn". My Evo is stock otherwise (I know I'm doing this backwards too =). The car takes off a little easier from a stop (always nice for smooth and gentle street starts with a full Starbucks), I hear a little more turbo goodness, the torque comes on a little earlier, totally fits with no rubs anywhere, under the stock tie bars with nice clearance, things are a bit more punchy everywhere, nothing major, but just "supportive". I'm happy with a part with no downsides (noise, rattles, leaks, fitment issues, poor quality, etc).

EVOate909
01-07-2005, 03:41 PM
HELIX works great and its on sale rite now www.gruppe-s.com

romerico arceo
02-26-2005, 11:33 AM
RMR fits great on 05 just put one but you have to put a spacer to the 2nd tie bar like 1/2 inch to clear the dp (back) and the cross brace (RMR) you have to put a spacer too same 1/2 inch to clear the dp but i think thats the best fit for 05

evo mr
02-26-2005, 11:40 PM
The RS-R fitls like a charm (perfect) i am selling mine pm me

evotistic
02-27-2005, 12:58 AM
I have the Monster Sport dp on my MR and it fits perfectly, no spacers needed, no rubbing.....

PiNG
03-01-2005, 12:35 AM
hmmm, does anyone know if Tanabe DP fits 05 MR? and What about JIC DP?

JanSolo
08-16-2005, 08:26 AM
i *ran* with it. I replaced my previous aftermarket downpipe with a WORKS downpipe and saw an immediate spool up difference. It has no rubbing issues and doesn't need spacers for the lower tie bars to clear it.

escabar
08-16-2005, 08:49 AM
no probs with mine...no fitment issues...as mentioned...able to use both tie bars w/o any clearance issues...

minimal bends...relatively light...clean welds at the flanges...
definitely a DP you should consider...

tama_mog
08-16-2005, 01:51 PM
from what I've seen on someone's MR, the works dp works pretty good and seems to be a quality piece.

Matz
09-06-2005, 06:37 AM
Love my WORKS DP. Looks really great, especially with the ceramic coating! I had the DP and IP installed at the same time, and the car felt like it spooled faster afterward.

evolcire
09-06-2005, 08:32 PM
I'm getting my 76mm ceramic coated downpipe installed by RRE right now. From what I can tell, it was a very clean piece. But it better be more than that to justify its price...I'll let you know once I get it installed.

IH8VTEC
09-06-2005, 10:23 PM
I did mine in 2 stages. First I installed the HFC + cat back, ran out of time for the DP until a week later. I felt a big difference with just the cat back. I then felt the difference with the DP installed. It made the car so responsive to the throttle, less noticeable was quicker spool. I felt it justified the asking price. I also switched from the K&N to the WORKS filter and noticed better response at freeway speeds and slight increase (~2mpg) in fuel economy. I love the sound of my Evo, that was very important to me, almost as much as the performance increase.

evolcire
09-09-2005, 11:52 PM
I don't have anything but stock to compare to, but I just got the WORKS 76mm dp, rally cat, and Greddy Ti installed. Hella loud but hella faster than stock. I sure didn't expect the exhaust swap to make that noticeable a difference in the spool and the kick in the pants it gives you once full boost hits. Wow. Can't wait to see what camshafts and some bigger injectors will do.

macster
09-10-2005, 04:37 AM
I went with the WORKS Exhale DP 70mm Exhaust (Downpipe), HF filter and the Stealth muffler. The sound is also stock and the performance was worth the money. I'm loving it.

m~

TrickedOutEVOVIII
10-22-2005, 12:32 AM
my 3" helix downpipe is pissing me off cuz it keeps hitting something on the bottom of the car at idle and I HATE IT!!!!!!!!! i wanna scream everytime it happens and sometimes i wanna pull it off and throw it away. my question is...which downpipes wont do that???? i know you guys are gonna ask so ive got an 04 gsr.

egui42
10-22-2005, 12:36 AM
This has been talked about a lot, but...

1. Works
2. TXS
3. HKS
4. etc.

before getting rid of the downpipe now, have you tried plaing with it a little? Maybe Kartboy Hangers will do the trick.

genrec
10-23-2005, 09:04 AM
you want 0 problems..........go espelir.

ultraflip
10-23-2005, 11:30 AM
what year is your evo... i have an 04... my helix use to rattle... NOT NO MO!!!!!!!!

bang ur hangers correctly... wrap ur DP.... no mo rattle!!!!

-flip

EvoPwr
10-23-2005, 03:31 PM
espelir

evolved
10-24-2005, 02:22 PM
espelir

EVOate909
10-24-2005, 03:07 PM
i have the helix dp too...no rattling here

try to re-adjust the bolts on the o2 housing and do wrap it O0

bogey8
10-24-2005, 03:24 PM
I had the same Helix 3" dp and I had rattles at first, but after re-adjusting the hangers and wrapping it, all the rattling went away.

But after I had cams installed & timing belt replaced, there was some major vibrations only at 4K-5K rpm. I thought the DP was causing it so I replaced it with an Ultimate Racing DP and the vibration was still there. But I have to say that the UR fits like a glove. It costs more but the fit is perfect.

TT figured out that it was the pulley that was causing the vibration and they replaced it and all the vibrations are gone.

I could have kept my Helix DP but I already bought the UR Dp.

So I suggest wrap it and adjust. Good luck.

cascosblueevo
11-11-2005, 12:53 PM
AVO DOWNPIPE ANY GOOD?

G20
11-11-2005, 03:24 PM
Better than stock for sure. I have both of them in my garage and the stock is one skinny downpipe* :grin:.

rino
11-11-2005, 03:33 PM
of course it is :)

not many people will have the avo dp because the price for the damn thing is tons more expensive than what i sold it to you for.

kimletrim
11-11-2005, 03:35 PM
Better than stock for sure

cascosblueevo
11-11-2005, 03:49 PM
THANKS JUST WONDERING

Skiracer
11-11-2005, 04:30 PM
All DP's are about the same. The major difference if it fits your car or not...

bonestockevo8
11-11-2005, 04:34 PM
of course it is :)

not many people will have the avo dp because the price for the damn thing is tons more expensive than what i sold it to you for.
Your price=150 obo; price on AVO website...=150........I have the AVO DP on my car; fits and works great. Most DPs like simon said will probably be similar in terms of power gains.

CHIGGA73
11-11-2005, 06:03 PM
do different DP's create louder/higher decibels? i mean is one louder than the other? i hear fujitsubo is a very quiet exhaust...do i pair it with a fujitsubo dp to keep it quiet? or anything that fits and the sound will be the same if the performance is the same

CJexJiggy
11-11-2005, 06:49 PM
do different DP's create louder/higher decibels?* i mean is one louder than the other?* i hear fujitsubo is a very quiet exhaust...do i pair it with a fujitsubo dp to keep it quiet? or anything that fits and the sound will be the same if the performance is the same
Depends on how quiet you want to go for. If you want to pass the states' Db level regulations then I'd recomend the full Avo turbo back. It has been known to read in the range from 92Db- 94Db and state law for any passenger vehicle is not exceed 95Db. ( Correct me if I'm wrong). I myself have the full Avo TB and passed at 92.4Db (stock cat ofcourse)

kimletrim
11-11-2005, 09:08 PM
of course it is :)

not many people will have the avo dp because the price for the damn thing is tons more expensive than what i sold it to you for.
Your price=150 obo; price on AVO website...=150........I have the AVO DP on my car; fits and works great.* Most DPs like simon said will probably be similar in terms of power gains.


Good luck actually finding for that price though.

GokuSSJ4
11-11-2005, 11:47 PM
you can also look into the WORKS 76mm DP, very high quality...
worth every penny and it fits all 03-05's models .

cascosblueevo
11-14-2005, 12:11 PM
ok well i spent 100 so i guess im pretty satisfied ? ^-^

kimletrim
11-14-2005, 12:28 PM
ok well i spent 100 so i guess im pretty satisfied ?* ^-^


Put it on and you'll be amazed how easy the installation is for the AVO, then you will feel how good it really is.

cascosblueevo
11-14-2005, 01:56 PM
ok well i spent 100 so i guess im pretty satisfied ?* ^-^


Put it on and you'll be amazed how easy the installation is for the AVO, then you will feel how good it really is.


well thats good to hear as soon as HB is done fixing my trainy i will put my aftermarket shiz back on

shannon-evo
11-17-2005, 08:22 PM
I spoke to someone with a Works 3" down pipe and he said that it was hitting the ACD. Has anyone mounted any other downpipes on a 2005-2006?

EvoPwr
11-17-2005, 08:28 PM
Espelier

EvoStevo
11-17-2005, 09:11 PM
i've heard the Espelir is the only downpipe that doesn't rattle. Is that true?

EvolvedMCC
11-17-2005, 09:28 PM
Invidia.

EvoPwr
11-17-2005, 09:30 PM
i've heard the Espelir is the only downpipe that doesn't rattle. Is that true?


not, there are very few others, but Espelir does work great

genrec
11-17-2005, 10:04 PM
ESPELIR or go home bitching.PERIOD.

j_nizzle
11-17-2005, 10:09 PM
dc sports...

Skiracer
11-17-2005, 10:14 PM
Espelir 2.75" O0

GokuSSJ4
11-17-2005, 10:47 PM
WORKS 76mm DP, no problems with it.. i have some pics, need to upload them

05-EVO-GSR
11-19-2005, 04:03 PM
AVO and DC Sports Downpipe fit like a glove. 100% tried and tested on my 05.

909Evo
11-20-2005, 06:08 PM
I had one custom made at TT, it was a pretty good price I think. I have had no fitment issues what-so-ever.... well duh, it was made for the car. I dunno, I like supporting local small business to, especially when they give you a good deal. On top of that, it never hurts to have the local tuner's recognize you and appreciate your business, you never know when you will need them.

lockjaw
11-21-2005, 01:18 AM
the hks also fits no prob. im selling mine if you need it for $150. had it for about 3 months.

speedracer2169
11-22-2005, 04:11 PM
Any one have this combo? I'm thinking of running this and I just want to get some feedback and hopefully someone might have a sound clip to this.

trinydex
11-26-2005, 05:10 PM
aparently the fitment on the dc sports stuff is very good.

genrec
11-26-2005, 05:26 PM
J_Nizzle has this combo, he likes it alot.

j_nizzle
11-26-2005, 06:16 PM
J_Nizzle has this combo, he likes it alot.


thank you...but i have a dent in my muffler(long story) and im thinking about getting 5zigen's ProRacer A-Spec exhaust...it has a burnt tip and has two mufflers along the pipe. power gains are good(5zigen claims) and noise is reduced.

GOOSE_Ej
11-27-2005, 10:18 PM
so i want to get a dp but,

which is better to get a

2.75' dp
or
3' dp
?

also if i get a 2.75 will i get less power than a 3' ??

Thanks
-GOOSE

kimletrim
11-27-2005, 11:12 PM
Per RRE:

Espelier Stainless Steel 2.75" down pipe. OMG! It's only 2.75" diameter! ¡Que horríble! Yeah, you will be limited to about 600 hp with "only" a 2.75" down pipe. But hey, it nicely fits all EVOs including MR and '05s and newer cars with active center differentials. We figured that was the important part.

WOT
11-28-2005, 10:53 AM
I would say get the 2.75". At this stage of the game, it's not gonig to make much difference. Besides, the 2.75" pipe will be slightly quieter inside the car than a 3", slightly, but noticable.

Macky
11-28-2005, 11:04 AM
downpipe size doesnt always mean bigger is better. if you have too big a downpipe and exhaust, you actually loose some power. sometimes running a stagger makes better power.

our red MR runs a 3" downpipe to a 2.75" exhaust. makes good strong power and sounds mean too. just ask anyone who's heard it.

EvoPwr
11-28-2005, 04:42 PM
Per RRE:

Espelier Stainless Steel 2.75" down pipe. OMG! It's only 2.75" diameter! ¡Que horríble! Yeah, you will be limited to about 600 hp with "only" a 2.75" down pipe. But hey, it nicely fits all EVOs including MR and '05s and newer cars with active center differentials. We figured that was the important part.


+1 O0


perfectly stated, unless you are making well above 500 hp, you don't need a 3"...dont compensate O0

GOOSE_Ej
11-28-2005, 06:15 PM
well i have a espiler cat back exhuast with cat delete.. and i was wondering which i should get a 2.75 or a 3' ..

-GOOSE

EvoPwr
11-28-2005, 06:52 PM
well i have a espiler cat back exhuast with cat delete.. and i was wondering which i should get a 2.75 or a 3' ..

-GOOSE

2.75

touchmyjagee
11-28-2005, 08:45 PM
i actually purchased the espelir dp.* from what i know, espelir dp is 2.75, and so is the espelir exhaust since it tapers.* i think the power that makes up for it is more than enough for a stock turbo.

this is off-topic but....

i havent installed any of the parts since im actually studying abroad, but is it really that much more noticable in terms of sound between a hfc and a testpipe? i think i shouldve gone with the hfc setup.

EvoPwr
11-28-2005, 09:08 PM
i actually purchased the espelir dp. from what i know, espelir dp is 2.75, and so is the espelir exhaust since it tapers. i think the power that makes up for it is more than enough for a stock turbo.

this is off-topic but....

i havent installed any of the parts since im actually studying abroad, but is it really that much more noticable in terms of sound between a hfc and a testpipe? i think i shouldve gone with the hfc setup.


sound, not too noticable, but there is a difference.

Urban Assault Vehicle
12-02-2005, 05:23 AM
what about the hks downpipe, isn't it only 65mm, i think thats like 2.5 inch's. is that to small to get to 330 ish whp?

rACeRs
12-03-2005, 09:48 AM
Im running a 2.75 dp right now. I just got a 3" dp so I will let you know if it helps or hurts it next time I go to the track.

j_nizzle
12-03-2005, 11:53 AM
downpipe size doesnt always mean bigger is better. if you have too big a downpipe and exhaust, you actually loose some power. sometimes running a stagger makes better power.

our red MR runs a 3" downpipe to a 2.75" exhaust. makes good strong power and sounds mean too. just ask anyone who's heard it.


which dp does it have?

EvoPwr
12-03-2005, 01:36 PM
downpipe size doesnt always mean bigger is better. if you have too big a downpipe and exhaust, you actually loose some power. sometimes running a stagger makes better power.

our red MR runs a 3" downpipe to a 2.75" exhaust. makes good strong power and sounds mean too. just ask anyone who's heard it.


which dp does it have?


RMR.

Slipstream
12-03-2005, 10:01 PM
Well, I have 1/2 of that setup. I have the DC Sports catless downpipe mated to the Greddy Evo2 catback. Sounds amazing. It's actually fairly quiet until WOT...then it screams. But it's not as loud as my friends Bushur exhaust. The DC Sports DP fits PERFECT. The Greddy Evo2 fits very well also...although I'd prefer if the tip stuck out like 1" more to help keep the black soot off the bumper.

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/1/web/433000-433999/433605_90_full.jpg

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/1/web/433000-433999/433605_98_full.jpg

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/1/web/433000-433999/433605_101_full.jpg

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/1/web/433000-433999/433605_99_full.jpg

j_nizzle
12-03-2005, 10:07 PM
that's the great thing i love about the dp...it isnt that loud, unless you're into bad mileage and for the soot, get an exhaust shield...you can d.i.y. for maybe $10-$15 or buy a c/f one for $100...

trinydex
12-03-2005, 10:26 PM
actually... the location of the tip doesn't matter that much and neither does having the shield, i have the shield and the bumper is still sooty, it gets sooty up to the spoiler actually hahaha.

j_nizzle
12-03-2005, 10:59 PM
actually... the location of the tip doesn't matter that much and neither does having the shield, i have the shield and the bumper is still sooty, it gets sooty up to the spoiler actually hahaha.


:2funny:

GoRacerXGo
12-13-2005, 07:46 PM
won't the 2.75 give you better lowend (slightly), and the hp difference won't be much though unless we're talking about some serious HP.

dM
12-13-2005, 08:12 PM
I just got my ESPELIR 2.75 Dp and the sound is a lil louder.

Pm if you want pics or info on it.

DaRkStArVIII
12-14-2005, 10:07 PM
I have this as a combo I like it , but I am really intrested in knowing what numbers this setup generates ( hks hi power w/dc catless downpipe )

KRS333
02-02-2006, 10:57 AM
I am looking to purchase a downpipe by the end of the month & just had a general question regarding one in particular.. Does anyone have input on the Apexi GT downpipe? Will it fit a 05 with no clearance problems?

Blaze
02-02-2006, 11:00 AM
WORKS fits without fitment issues.
I know for a fact the RMR does as welll.

I'm not too certain about Apexi.
But their customer service support is excellent.
Just give them a call and ask.
O0

KRS333
02-02-2006, 11:07 AM
Well the reason I asked about is cause I have the Apexi exhaust so I would like to keep it in the family to say.. I thought about getting RMR before but still looking..

EVOATEYOU
02-05-2006, 09:39 PM
i believe the apexi gt DP is longer than most other DP's because it includes the test pipe with it, like its all one piece

j_nizzle
02-05-2006, 09:56 PM
do you plan to run catless? i have the dc sports d/p which is catless and not loud at all until you get to WOT...most people would agree the espelir is very good fitment wise as well.

genrec
02-06-2006, 08:40 AM
i believe the apexi gt DP is longer than most other DP's because it includes the test pipe with it, like its all one piece


NO.....it bolts up to the cat...but it has a flexpipe built into it, it also smaller diameter than most...like 2.65 or something like that......you can pick a better DP, you want a kick ass DP with NO fitment issues, just get the ESPELIR and call it a day. Cheaper as well.

Sam Smash
02-06-2006, 10:05 AM
My favorite is the Tanabe :)

EVOATEYOU
02-06-2006, 10:20 AM
i believe the apexi gt DP is longer than most other DP's because it includes the test pipe with it, like its all one piece


NO.....it bolts up to the cat...but it has a flexpipe built into it, it also smaller diameter than most...like 2.65 or something like that......you can pick a better DP, you want a kick ass DP with NO fitment issues, just get the ESPELIR and call it a day. Cheaper as well.


my bad, i coulda swore thats the way the GT was...sorry... but yeah, i would go with tanabe, fits perfect

Xetronic_Evo_VIII
02-17-2006, 03:32 PM
fujitsubo

CACalomino
02-17-2006, 11:34 PM
Buschur Racing 3' here no probs at all

emperor_gp
02-17-2006, 11:39 PM
tanabe

jevo
02-20-2006, 08:57 PM
i am thinking about geting a downpipe for my next mod but i keep hearing things like it rattleing and not clearing
what is one that will clear and not rattle its going to be matched up with an hks exhaust

j_nizzle
02-20-2006, 08:59 PM
espelir, tanabe, dc sports(catless), rsr(catless)...a few others. btw, what year/model evo do you have?

CICreations
02-20-2006, 09:03 PM
I had a tanabe installed on my IX at SRT Motorsports. No chattering or any complaints at all. And it has a MEAN sound!

jevo
02-20-2006, 09:12 PM
05 evo with acd

j_nizzle
02-20-2006, 10:02 PM
the ones i listed all work...

wj4
02-20-2006, 10:23 PM
the ones i listed all work...

yup, espelir and tanabe would be hte cheaper ones at around $200, give or take 20 bucks. im still waiting on mine after a long ass backorder:(

Macky
02-20-2006, 10:33 PM
tanabe works fine.

Ruri
02-21-2006, 10:34 PM
I just got a Blitz DP I hope it fits...

andru514
02-21-2006, 11:29 PM
heard dc sport fits perfect

j_nizzle
02-22-2006, 05:14 PM
heard dc sport fits perfect


it does...

rubelcon
02-22-2006, 05:44 PM
I had an RMR on my last '05. The new '05 is running a Tomei. O0

say when
02-24-2006, 10:05 PM
I have the hks and it doesn't rub at all.

evotistic
02-28-2006, 06:50 PM
I have a Monster Sport DP, mated to a HFC, no rubbing at all.

I have 05 MR with ACD as well.

C-Spec
02-28-2006, 06:52 PM
if it rattle, just heat wrap that biatchh and you will be fine. that's what i did with mine.

xEviLxVIIIx
02-28-2006, 07:12 PM
i have tanabe dp, with magnaflow HFC, and ghetto custon hks catback on my IX MR.

no rubbing on the dp cuz its 2.75". very nice piece. got my dp from Project Gen, i think he still has it on sale too.

the only 3" dp that clears and doesnt rattle on 05 w/acd that i know of is the WORKS dp and its pretty pricey

sidewaysevo
02-28-2006, 07:54 PM
I have a hks one for my 05 evo. No rubbing, fits perfect. I am selling it for a fair price pm if interested.

russjnco
03-02-2006, 08:46 AM
I'm running a buschur 2.5", no problems with clearance or rattling. I did run a Megan 3" for about a week but had to take it off because the flex section was resting on my Cusco v. 1 bar.

wicked935evo
03-06-2006, 11:19 PM
my buddy has the fujitsubo downpipe and it fits perfectly

chuckdashi
03-07-2006, 12:19 AM
does tha tanabe rattle with the acd?

EvolvedMCC
03-07-2006, 12:23 AM
Invidia NO RATTLING FITS PERFECT.

evomrguy
03-07-2006, 12:34 AM
My works 76mm fits like a glove on my 05. No issues whatsoever, just more power.

javinsMR
03-07-2006, 03:18 AM
what about megan racing dp???

emperor_gp
03-07-2006, 08:05 AM
does tha tanabe rattle with the acd?


nope.. i have a thread about how it doesn't have any issues with acd.. weren't you there when we installed one on charles' IX MR?

xEviLxVIIIx
03-07-2006, 08:22 AM
does tha tanabe rattle with the acd?


nope.. i have a thread about how it doesn't have any issues with acd.. weren't you there when we installed one on charles' IX MR?


Tanabe O0 , very nice. thanks Project Gen for hooking up the Tanabe dp

Evasive EVO
03-09-2006, 01:25 AM
Blitz fits just fine.

bernie_ownz
03-09-2006, 01:36 AM
i have custom piping up to the cat and my car isnt loud at all..so im thinking of getting downpipe and cat delete or something that makes my car louder however i dont want my car to throw check engine light..please help, dont know what to do.. :roll:

ANTHONY
03-09-2006, 01:20 PM
Rsr does wonders besides removing the cat

j_nizzle
03-09-2006, 09:05 PM
get a dc sports catless d/p and use an 02 simulator so you dont throw a CEL

Evasive EVO
03-10-2006, 12:36 AM
Helix Mechanical CEL fix... simple as that.

hardcoreracing
03-10-2006, 10:27 AM
I'm running the espelir downpipe (2.75") and it clears ACD fine. On my IX we had to bend the crossbraces underneath the car a little bit to prevent rattling but other than that it's been great.

Next mods are up to you. Do you have a K&N drop in filter yet? That's probably the next cheapest mod. Then after that the cat and the exhaust would be the next logical step.

turbolarry
03-10-2006, 01:40 PM
... i dont want my CEL to come on..which cat do you guys recommend?high flow cat?test pipe?stock cat?hmm im so lost :roll:


If you don't want a check engine light you will need one off the three;
1. stock cat (if it fits/I can't say for sure bacause I've never installed an Espiler DP).* This is the most restrictive and least power.
2. high flow cat.* Less restrictive and a little more power.
3. test pipe and one drilled out antifouler.* Best exhaust flow and most power.* Look at the "Rear O2 sensor simulator" (scroll down);
http://www.roadraceengineering.com/evo.htm

PS
Option #3 is very illegal.* You better get along with all local PD's and CHP.* ;)

hardcoreracing
03-10-2006, 01:52 PM
Go with the High Flow Cat, you'll be happy. You won't get any CEL, you'll feel the difference in power, you won't get paranoid every time a cop rides by, and you won't get the stinkies..

500whp
03-10-2006, 02:15 PM
it does delete ur car, the only dp that does is the RSR one!

05-EVO-GSR
03-10-2006, 07:42 PM
it does delete ur car, the only dp that does is the RSR one!


Huh?

Ever heard of DC Sports?

Anyway, the Espelir Downpipe does not elimate the factory cat.

DC_TypeR
03-10-2006, 09:06 PM
DP either Buschur ,or Espelir

RRE Test Pipe - $60.00

RRE Rear O2 sensor simulator - $20


http://roadraceengineering.com/evo.htm

I am running the test pipe and o2 fix , never thrown a check engine on me

Ruri
03-12-2006, 08:23 PM
Blitz fits just fine.


+1 for the Blitz. It's got flex pipe that others don't have.

nj1266
03-13-2006, 02:19 PM
I think any 2.75 inch dp will fit the 05. The 3 inch is different. I know that the DC sport (catless) and the JIC fit since I have one. The problem with the JIC is that it tapers down to the stock cat diameter. I had mine modified to 3 inch to match the hi-flo cat that I have.

TougeMonster
03-13-2006, 06:35 PM
Not the Helix

chrisalishuss
03-22-2006, 01:11 PM
BTW i LOVE IT. sounds amazing, putting around on the street or at WOT. I feel a little extra boost, and I have to try that much less when racing sti's haha. I have noticed now and then when idling or going through a drive through or something that i hear some vibrations. I thought it might be the connectors and maybe possibly it is very clost to the front sways so it might be vibrating against that. anyone else with this problem or have an idea. I am going to get it up on jacks this weekend to check everything out, just wanted to get a heads up of what I might expect.

chrisalishuss
03-22-2006, 01:13 PM
I got the new quieter muffler with the full TBE set up and the angle cut tip... so sexy. It passed the cop test too. pulled up behind me fallowed for maybe 1/4 mile, then pulled the guy in front of me over. I have also had one cop at a center ask about my car and he beleived it was a stock exhaust. O0

ultraflip
03-22-2006, 01:14 PM
front sway? maybe the crossmember? what downpipe do you have? it may be rubbing

xEviLxVIIIx
03-22-2006, 01:14 PM
i dont have a buschur, but on my hks, the midpipe with rubbing on the driveshaft

ultraflip
03-22-2006, 01:16 PM
i dont have a buschur, but on my hks, the midpipe with rubbing on the driveshaft


bend your hangers away from the midpipe... that's what i had to do to solve that problem w/ my hks hi power

xEviLxVIIIx
03-22-2006, 01:33 PM
i dont have a buschur, but on my hks, the midpipe with rubbing on the driveshaft


bend your hangers away from the midpipe... that's what i had to do to solve that problem w/ my hks hi power


i was, but i just got custom 3" piping made. problem solved and no tapers

chrisalishuss
03-22-2006, 06:40 PM
I think it slightly touches the bar. It runs stright next to the drive shaft, perfectly . and sits dead center of the cut out in nthe bumper.

xEviLxVIIIx
03-22-2006, 06:41 PM
if you can, just look at all the piping and you will be able to see rub marks.

Miss Evo8
03-22-2006, 06:49 PM
Bang on it with a hammer...or Ultraflips Bamboo sticks! :D

:mitsu: :mitsu: :mitsu: :mitsu: :mitsu: :mitsu: :mitsu: :mitsu: :mitsu:

Smogrunner
03-22-2006, 08:53 PM
Is your exhaust "beer can compliant?"

bbar
03-22-2006, 09:02 PM
When I had the Buschur downpipe, it rubbed against the frame brace too. There’s not too much clearance there. Some spacers will fix your problem.

chrisalishuss
03-23-2006, 02:13 AM
Is your exhaust "beer can compliant?"


???

Terry S
03-23-2006, 09:42 AM
Is your exhaust "beer can compliant?"


:2funny:

Terry S

chrisalishuss
04-01-2006, 08:12 AM
spacers... would a washer or something like that work?

bbar
04-01-2006, 06:16 PM
Yeah. Maybe 3-4 washers depending on how close the downpipe is.

speedracer2169
04-02-2006, 09:22 PM
Well got my exhaust and downpipe from SRT Motorsports on Saturday. Great piece of bling. Real simple to install just straight remove and replace. The Catback itself with out the DP is pretty quiet but get louder with the DP but no droning sound at 80mph. Downside meh the cross braces don't completely clear and sits on it but no rattling noises. Pics coming up soon. Props to Ultraflipomotive and SRT Motorsports. Install didn't take more than an hour on both pieces

SpdyEvo02
04-02-2006, 09:26 PM
nice jesse

speedracer2169
04-02-2006, 09:35 PM
Wait till you the pics of us goofing off. Oh on top of that I drove all the way to flips house with no muffler too because I started to take it off yesterday but I couldn't get the O2 sensor off so I drove like that all the way too long beach. That was loud

Macky
04-02-2006, 09:36 PM
where are the pics? :tickedoff: :grin:

speedracer2169
04-02-2006, 09:37 PM
I'm on dial up so I'll try posting them tomorrow at work.

andykin
04-03-2006, 11:57 PM
I'm on dial up so I'll try posting them tomorrow at work.

I'm here for the 11 o'clock gang bang

C-Spec
04-04-2006, 11:17 AM
I'm on dial up so I'll try posting them tomorrow at work.

I'm here for the 11 o'clock gang bang


con cac, du ma may. What's your budget?? how fast do you want to go ?? how about NOS?? :2funny: :D

kimletrim
04-04-2006, 11:22 AM
Watch your language Charlie!lol

DnB_Design
04-04-2006, 12:13 PM
just put some Washers it..

MREVORN
04-21-2006, 11:32 PM
hi, i am thinking getting a Espelier downpipe for my 05 MR, and i have few questions in my mind that i need some answers before i buy. so any info or input would be appreciated. thank you.

1. do i need to get a gasket for the section that's right before the downpipe(not the section between downpipe and the cat)?

2. for people who has the Espelier dp, how do you guys like it? any fitment or clearance issue(does it rub the ACD or lower arm brace in hard driving condition)?

3. does anyone know where to buy the electronic cell fix(i need this cause i will be using a test pipe) and do they really work?
thanks again.

shannon-evo
04-24-2006, 09:20 PM
I had an Espelier DP on my 05 GSR. It cleared the ACD, but the DP did sit on the lower brace bars.

ultraflip
04-24-2006, 09:26 PM
1. do i need to get a gasket for the section that's right before the downpipe(not the section between downpipe and the cat)?
you are talking about where the o2 housing mates to the downpipe. no... you do not need a gasket as there is already a donut gasket that is attached to your o2 housing that allows your downpipe to mate with it properly

2. for people who has the Espelier dp, how do you guys like it? any fitment or clearance issue(does it rub the ACD or lower arm brace in hard driving condition)?
i've installed a handful of these downpipes for people, they have great fitment and do not rub against the acd and lower arm brace in adverse driving conditions

3. does anyone know where to buy the electronic cell fix(i need this cause i will be using a test pipe) and do they really work?
thanks again.
i have an electronic cell fix sitting in my garage if you'd like... make me an offer... never used... you could also make a mechanical o2 fix as well. both work really well, just one costs more than the other. i can also make a mechanical o2 fix for you as well, or better yet... show you how

lemme know
regards,
flip

Skiracer
04-25-2006, 05:59 AM
I had an Espelier DP on my 05 GSR. It cleared the ACD, but the DP did sit on the lower brace bars.


Just bend the hangers on the DP a bit and it'll clear the lower brace bars O0

v8hater
04-25-2006, 07:18 AM
1. do i need to get a gasket for the section that's right before the downpipe(not the section between downpipe and the cat)?
you are talking about where the o2 housing mates to the downpipe. no... you do not need a gasket as there is already a donut gasket that is attached to your o2 housing that allows your downpipe to mate with it properly

2. for people who has the Espelier dp, how do you guys like it? any fitment or clearance issue(does it rub the ACD or lower arm brace in hard driving condition)?
i've installed a handful of these downpipes for people, they have great fitment and do not rub against the acd and lower arm brace in adverse driving conditions

3. does anyone know where to buy the electronic cell fix(i need this cause i will be using a test pipe) and do they really work?
thanks again.
i have an electronic cell fix sitting in my garage if you'd like... make me an offer... never used... you could also make a mechanical o2 fix as well. both work really well, just one costs more than the other. i can also make a mechanical o2 fix for you as well, or better yet... show you how

lemme know
regards,
flip


+1
I have one on my evo 9 and know problem with clearance at all.

05WickedWhitey
04-25-2006, 07:59 PM
I have one and love it , no clearence issues , rattles anything* *:grin:

wsEVO562
04-25-2006, 10:28 PM
same here, I haven't had any issues at all O0

javinsMR
04-25-2006, 10:29 PM
same here, I haven't had any issues at all O0


+1 nice fit...

silvergsr72086
04-29-2006, 01:57 PM
im thinking of getting a downpipe but can i run a 3 inch downpipe with the stock cat back? will it fit or should i get the cat-back first? and what downpipes fit good cuz i heard some dont fit well

Evoegg
05-01-2006, 02:23 AM
mine is UBER FITMENT... but whoever installed for you have to work on it a little... mine took around 15mins and the guy adjust it a bit to clear everything... and EVERYTHING is cleared .


Great product.


Evoegg

EviLutionIX
05-05-2006, 03:54 PM
I've got one.. 06 MR.. No problems, fits perfect. It would probably rub if it was a 3", but i got the one before that.. I think it's 2.75". Pefect fitment.

philthyevo
05-06-2006, 11:59 PM
hey all, i just got a TURBO XS Catback/Exhuast system for my car and I was wondering what Downpipe I should put in. I've heard that I should match it up with a TURBO XS DP, but those are around 300 bucks... 3 or 2.75? WHich one? Help pls

MR. Birdie
06-03-2006, 10:22 AM
I did a search, and been hearing mis information in regarding about the downpipe. I thought the RSR will fit but I contact them and they stated, that it will fit but it will sit to close to the transfer case. They recommend the evo 9 not to run it? I don't get it, would it be the same on the 05 evo 8? Well I want to run a 3" downpipe and was wondering anyone know which one fit directly without any rubbing issue.

chuckdashi
06-03-2006, 10:40 AM
i believe the tanabe should be ok but the tanabe is only a 2.75

Skiracer
06-03-2006, 11:16 AM
Espelir 2.75" fits like a glove with room to spare O0

Macky
06-03-2006, 11:32 AM
Espelir 2.75" fits like a glove with room to spare O0


so does the tanabe O0

i believe the few 3" downpipes that woudl fit will have some sort of rubbing issue one way or another.

rino
06-03-2006, 12:18 PM
do the evo 9 guys that run 3" downpipes use washers so it doesn't rub?

Macky
06-03-2006, 12:43 PM
do the evo 9 guys that run 3" downpipes use washers so it doesn't rub?


i think they either put heat wrap on the downpipe

MR. Birdie
06-04-2006, 01:30 AM
Yeah I heard people heat wraping the 3" downpipe. How about the DC downpipe?

Suprfreakk
06-04-2006, 07:14 AM
I just got the MR a week ago and I had SRT put in the Tanabe dp, it cleared everything.

Sam Smash
06-04-2006, 10:03 AM
The Invidia Downpipe is 3" and does not rub. You will need to either bend the lower bars, add spacers, or just buy the aftermarket lower bars :)

MR. Birdie
06-04-2006, 11:28 AM
The Invidia Downpipe is 3" and does not rub. You will need to either bend the lower bars, add spacers, or just buy the aftermarket lower bars :)




So the invidia 3" downpipe fit like a glove without any problem?

Macky
06-04-2006, 11:32 AM
The Invidia Downpipe is 3" and does not rub. You will need to either bend the lower bars, add spacers, or just buy the aftermarket lower bars :)




So the invidia 3" downpipe fit like a glove without any problem?


it will fit with problems.

MR. Birdie
06-04-2006, 12:38 PM
damn this 3" downpipe is such a hassle. How much power are the 2.75 in. downpipe limited too?

Dagul
06-04-2006, 01:11 PM
500 - 600 WHP depending on who's opinion you listen to...

Macky
06-04-2006, 02:56 PM
damn this 3" downpipe is such a hassle. How much power are the 2.75 in. downpipe limited too?


remember, anything you bolt on just improves the system. but if you want stamped, credible gains, you need tuning.

Skiracer
06-04-2006, 05:21 PM
The 2.75" Espeliar DP, stock cat, and 3" catback made noticeable gains on my untuned IX :uglystupid2:

MR. Birdie
06-04-2006, 05:22 PM
I understand your guys point of view. I also understand the power gain is really depend on the tuning aspect of the system also. I think im just going go with the Tanabe 2.75 downpipe with a 80mm straight flow exhaust. So 500-600whp is a proven fact that 2.75 downpipe are good up too?

Dagul
06-04-2006, 07:46 PM
Well, you won't see 500 - 600 WHP with just basic bolt-ons... The only aftermarket turbo kit I've seen that uses the stock or stock replacement type downpipe is the SlowBoy Racing 30/35R kit. So that's something to think about as well.

Everyone has their wants, needs, and priorities. I am personally looking for an o2 / downpipe combo that will still allow for the stock lower heat shield to be mounted. And right now, that limits me to the works o2 housing unless I find definitive proof that the ebay housing, invidia housing, or helix o2 housing can squeeze under the stock lower heat shield.

So decide if you're staying with a stock or stock type turbo i.e. 20g-9-5 or whatever before buying up parts. Plan and plan and try to buy parts only once. Don't make the mistake I madealizee buying parts only to r that it doesn't fit my priorities. Also keep in mind that the front undertray is a PITA, which is why I'm waiting till I have all the parts I need to install while the tray is off like gauge senders, dp, o2 housing and whatnot.

MR. Birdie
06-04-2006, 11:38 PM
hahah yeah I don't expect that much power on a stock turbo. Usually most turbo kit comes with a custom 3" downpipe to work with the bigger turbo. Thank you for all the good info fellas O0

philthyevo
06-12-2006, 11:30 AM
hey everyone, i got the invidia DP for my 06 GSR and its 3 inches so it doenst clear. I put in a bunch of washers, does anyone know if this is bad for the stability of the car? Those 2 bars under the car, are they crucial for the firmness and stability of the car?

I_AM_EVO
06-13-2006, 12:34 AM
What about HKS DP? Well that cause any problem?

Evolution22plus1
06-13-2006, 12:45 AM
The 2.75" Espeliar DP, stock cat, and 3" catback made noticeable gains on my untuned IX :uglystupid2:


Whats the point if ur keeping your stock cat? Its kinda pointless to get a DP if ur not gonna delete the cat.

xxazn2nrxx
06-13-2006, 02:22 AM
I'm running the JIC downpipe on my IX, you'll need washers as the bars get in the way.

Dagul
06-13-2006, 07:39 AM
Whats the point if ur keeping your stock cat? Its kinda pointless to get a DP if ur not gonna delete the cat.



some people care about the environment.
some people don't want to deal with risk of a CEL.
some people can't stand the smell of fumes when running a testpipe.
some people didn't have the budget for it when they bought their downpipe and or catback.

Everyone's reasoning is different, including yours. But it's not entirely pointless. It's already been proven that stock cat is a fiarly high flow unit and freeing up "any" other restriction in the exhaust system will have potential gains. Even if the stock cat is still in place.

nj1266
06-16-2006, 08:05 PM
hey everyone, i got the invidia DP for my 06 GSR and its 3 inches so it doenst clear. I put in a bunch of washers, does anyone know if this is bad for the stability of the car? Those 2 bars under the car, are they crucial for the firmness and stability of the car?

Is the Invidia DP 3 inch all the way? Or does it taper at the O2 housing and the cat? Does it use the stock donut?

philthyevo
06-16-2006, 10:09 PM
Yeah im using the stock donut, the pipe is 3 inches but 4 inches at the tips. It was a little tough putting it in since i needed about 10 washers on each screw. Lately, I'm hearing some funny sounds, i will check it out on sunday

philthyevo
06-25-2006, 08:13 PM
Hey everyone, I have a IX GSR and currently have a TurboXS Catback/exhuast and thats great...but ever since i put in the Invidia downpipe, there IS that strange rattling sound and it doesnt clear by a good half inch. (I have like 12 washers in on each screw!! :-(

ANywho, I was thinking about the TurboXS downpipe, anyone know if that one clears?

Any recommendations on the BEST one for EVO IX?

philthyevo
06-27-2006, 12:55 AM
What about 2006 EVO GSRs?


I got one and put in the INvidia downpipe...its 3 inches and doesnt clear, i had to put in 10 spacers on all 5 screws holding the tie bars in place.* Isn't this bad?


im thinking about getting a Turbo XS DP...

evobong
06-27-2006, 12:19 PM
hmmm, does anyone know if Tanabe DP fits 05 MR? and What about JIC DP?


I believe Macky has Tanabe DP on his 05 MR.

apboss
06-27-2006, 01:10 PM
We offer down pipes for Evo 7, 8, MR, 9 in steel, stainless and titanium. Check out our homepage for full line up of our parts.

Turbocrazy1
06-27-2006, 05:16 PM
I bought the Megan Racing tbe setup and the dp and the exhaust were a bitch to put on. The exhaust barely clears the gas tank... as for the dp it barely clears the t/c... just barely!!! One thing I had to do was either grind the shoulder on the spring bolts down or reem out the holes on the dp because the bolts dont fit through the holes. I went with grinding down the shoulder on the spring bolts... I though this stuff was supposed to be bolt on.. what a pain in the ass!!!!* *:crazy2: I guess I cant complain because you can get Megan parts so cheap.

javinsMR
06-28-2006, 12:24 AM
espelir fits perfect!

philthyevo
06-28-2006, 11:24 AM
Ya ya, I've been hearing that....but what about on 2006 EVO IXs? Will Espelir fit perfectly as well?

Macky
06-28-2006, 11:57 AM
Ya ya, I've been hearing that....but what about on 2006 EVO IXs? Will Espelir fit perfectly as well?


it should.

your only problem would be the cat and catback because they relocated the 02 bung.

Crash
07-05-2006, 10:22 AM
Guys,
I have a IX MR and I would like to know if it is worth getting a 3 inch downpipe and risk fitament issues or stick with a 2.76 and know it will fit. I have heard/read that there are some issues with the 05 and up Evos due to a bigger diff. Most turbo kits come with a replacement downpipe correct? so I will loose this piece regardless when the time comes. Right now, my goal is 330whp with all the common boltons. I will eventually look into turbo upgrades/strokers but for now I would rather wait especially since tuning is still a bit behind on the mivec cars, lack of stand alone ecu replacement, and there is no plug in harnesses for any safc type tuning devices.

I will most likely be contacting RRE for this "Dr Grey" package everyone talks about. Seems like they are the favored shop on this board.

DTunedEvoX
07-05-2006, 10:32 AM
According to RRE- a 2.75inch DP is good for nearly 400whp ... Dont think you'd be giving anything up ... :) 330whp is easily obtainable with a 2.75 inch dp ..

jevo
07-05-2006, 11:21 AM
i have a apexi 2.75 dp for sale pm me an offer if your interested

oct7th1987
07-06-2006, 12:48 PM
hi. i just bought a used megan racing downpipe off somebody. i looked at lancershop.com, and i noticed there were 2 of them, one for 05's and one for 03's and 04's. the guy who sold me the downpipe, i believe, crashed his 04. i drive an 05 so will this downpipe fit my evo? i am going to install it today. any tips? do i use the stock bolts? do i use gaskets?? does the stock downpipe have gaskets? what about those springs on the stock bolts? any help is appreciated. thanks!

speedracer2169
07-06-2006, 01:43 PM
you need new 3" gaskets and if it is a dp from an 04 then no it wont fit your 05

Macky
07-06-2006, 01:48 PM
03-04 downpipes wont fit 05-up Evos.

oct7th1987
07-06-2006, 02:21 PM
the guy said to pull out the donut gasket and then the downpipe will fit. is this right?

Macky
07-06-2006, 02:52 PM
the guy said to pull out the donut gasket and then the downpipe will fit. is this right?


bolting it on isnt the problem. its the downpipe clearance from the ACD thats going to give you a problem.

oct7th1987
07-06-2006, 03:22 PM
well.. i just pulled out the donut gasket.. and then bolted on the downpipe. it doesnt seem to rub anything,, except for the tranny.. i think its the tranny. its just sitting against it. will this do serious damage to my car? heating problems? not sure.

there seems to be no exhaust leak at all. my spool up is way sooner. i start to hear/feel the spool up at around 2800.

top end is a lot better. noise is crazy.

thanks for all the help. more tips and help apreciated. thanks.

blkside
07-06-2006, 03:25 PM
It should be the ACD... yeah any metal to metal contact like that is BAD. Thats why the DP is different for the 05. Listen to Macky... he was adopted by Mitsu. Thats not gonna be wise to run it if its rubbing your ACD.

Macky
07-06-2006, 03:54 PM
well.. i just pulled out the donut gasket.. and then bolted on the downpipe. it doesnt seem to rub anything,, except for the tranny.. i think its the tranny. its just sitting against it. will this do serious damage to my car? heating problems? not sure.

there seems to be no exhaust leak at all. my spool up is way sooner. i start to hear/feel the spool up at around 2800.

top end is a lot better. noise is crazy.

thanks for all the help. more tips and help apreciated. thanks.


what color is the metal/metal piece that it is rubbing against? if its mostly a silver/metal color, thats the tranny. if its black, its the bottom of the oil pan (i believe). normally, parts that shouldnt be touching together under the car have a reason for it.

if you have metal to metal contact like that, one can only assume its not right. heating problems is fairly obvious (you have a 3" wide exhaust pipe in the equation after all), and we all know too much heat on anything will always cause problems.

i would suggest getting an 05-up type of downpipe. if there was no harm bolting on an 03 aftermarket downpipe to an 05-up Evo, then everyone would have not traded in their older downpipes and purchased 05-up specific ones.

oct7th1987
07-06-2006, 04:24 PM
yeah.. i think it was rubbing against the tranny. the metal was a light silver color. was not against the oil pan.

what if i thermo-wrapped it? would be better? less heat getting out? anyone else out there with a megan downpipe?

man.. i really want a new downpipe! one that clears everything! would anyone want a megan racing downpipe? trades?

thanks.

Macky
07-06-2006, 04:30 PM
yeah.. i think it was rubbing against the tranny. the metal was a light silver color. was not against the oil pan.

what if i thermo-wrapped it? would be better? less heat getting out? anyone else out there with a megan downpipe?

man.. i really want a new downpipe! one that clears everything! would anyone want a megan racing downpipe? trades?

thanks.


that would possibly be the tranny or x-case, im not sure. oil pan is black. either way, it shouldnt be touching anything. strong vibration + lots of heat = problems.

thermo wrapping it would be like putting a bandaid on a white shark bite on your leg. that doesnt fix the contact issue or the resulting vibration problems. the heat will still transfer over to whatever it is touching. you are just delaying the inevitable.


get an appropriate downpipe ;)

EvoPwr
07-06-2006, 08:55 PM
alrite. thanks mr macky.

now in search of a new dp for an 05! have a megan dp from an 03. help!


Espelier 2.75", it works and best of all it fits with no rubbing.

jevo
07-06-2006, 09:32 PM
i have an apexi 2.75 let me know

MRchnk
09-09-2006, 12:25 AM
the new DP from RSR has just come in from the 9's and i just put mine on 2day and it fits perfectly. go D3motorsports they have like 20 of them there perfect

thisxguy
09-09-2006, 12:39 AM
there's the thread...
http://www.socalevo.net/index.php?option=com_smf&Itemid=37&topic=27727.msg6827313#msg6827313

direct link to pictures...

http://d3-motorsport.com/Evo9_5.jpg

http://d3-motorsport.com/DSCN0719.JPG

D3 Motorsport
09-09-2006, 04:59 PM
Here are the Pictures. & Thanks Thisxguy for posting the links to the pictures. These DP's are brand new from RS-R. These will Clear for the 8/9/MR's as well. They are in Stainless Steel 3". I have 3 Left. So if you are interested please contact me.

http://d3-motorsport.com/SoCalEVO/DSCN0719.JPG

http://d3-motorsport.com/SoCalEVO/Evo9_5.jpg

Sam Smash
09-09-2006, 05:58 PM
Come by our shop, we have lots of down pipes in stock. You can compare them, and we will install it and you pick the one you like :)

Tanabe
Invidia
Helix
Perrin
Dc Sport
Apex
HKS

All these down pipes are in stock :) I will install anyone you want, check it, approve and you can leave with the one you like. You can listen to a pro that does this everyday for a living, or someone who is an enthusiast.

EVOla_VIRUS
09-12-2006, 04:17 PM
Espelir DP fit flawlessy on my IX. Great quality :)

I love how the hangers dont require bolts; they slip right into the rubber mounts :)

ghost_evo
09-12-2006, 04:23 PM
hit up d3 motorsports they should have the new rsr dp instock it clears O0

Lagsux
09-15-2006, 09:50 PM
I actually have an RnR DP on my IX too, and it fits great too~ I like the finish too, since it looks like polished SS.

MR. Birdie
09-18-2006, 08:40 PM
I went with the tanabe and fits like a glove.

KRNEVO8
09-20-2006, 04:29 PM
you can get rs-r new redesigned SS dp
it clears your evo 9 with no problem
i have one and no rubbing issue and it clears the tranny
full 3 inch and it clears your cat
PM d3 motosport
i believe its 340 installed. 299 for the dp itself

4G64T
09-22-2006, 02:21 AM
I have the 3" Injen downpipe and have no problems with clearence even with the Cusco brace.

tirbolag9
10-01-2006, 10:46 AM
WORKS have a 3in (76mm) down pipe. pricey but fits very well.

thisxguy
10-01-2006, 10:52 AM
New RSR 3in downpipe (deletes the cat). i know 2 guys with it and it fits perfectly. hit up D3 motorsports...i think they have a few more in stock

j_nizzle
10-01-2006, 11:00 AM
WORKS have a 3in (76mm) down pipe. pricey but fits very well.


uh...76 mm isnt 3in"

EVOL EDO
10-01-2006, 11:07 AM
WORKS have a 3in (76mm) down pipe. pricey but fits very well.


uh...76 mm isnt 3in"


ITS 2.99 INCHES

EFIxMR
10-01-2006, 12:47 PM
I tuned and driven many evo 8's and evo 9's, and have come to the conclusion that the 3" dp is overkill for the stock turbo and pump gas. With a 2.75" dp you will see better throttle response and tq, also there is very little if any power to gain by switching to a 3" on the top end.

MR. Birdie
10-01-2006, 02:20 PM
I tuned and driven many evo 8's and evo 9's, and have come to the conclusion that the 3" dp is overkill for the stock turbo and pump gas. With a 2.75" dp you will see better throttle response and tq, also there is very little if any power to gain by switching to a 3" on the top end.


3" + is a must with a turbo upgrade, but if you are running on the stock turbo the 2.75 is more then enough. Get the tanabe one because I dont have any fitment issue with it.

4G64T
10-01-2006, 07:45 PM
Since I went from stock to 3" on the stock turbo, I have notice that the throttle response is not as good as the stock downpipe. This should change with the installation of the GT3076 this week.

thisxguy
10-01-2006, 07:51 PM
really? i've havent heard anything about about it on stock turbo and 3 inch piping and exhaust

4G64T
10-01-2006, 08:02 PM
That is what I have noticed. I maybe new to the EVO community but have been in the 4G63T community for 7 years. There maybe no empirical data to my response but this is my observation.

tirbolag9
10-02-2006, 01:16 PM
WORKS have a 3in (76mm) down pipe. pricey but fits very well.


uh...76 mm isnt 3in"


give or take a few mm to make an inch. 2.991=76mm. round up so its 3 inch. just like our engines...1997cc? so round up to 2.0L.

not trying to flame.

gen4k20a2
10-26-2006, 10:50 PM
Whats the consensus on the best fitting, downpipe for the IX then?

C-Spec
10-26-2006, 11:10 PM
go on ebay and buy one. they make fit evo with ACD perfectly and make the same power as any other one. matter fact i have one on my evo for about 2 years now.

trinydex
10-26-2006, 11:58 PM
all this talk about dps makes me want to write an article about them. i'll consider it... welcome any volenteers that want to get ahead of me and have me polish it and make a tech article out of it or something.

basically there is no consensus. the fact is that it depends on waht you want. dps come in many methods of deployment. do you want the donut gasket? do you want a flex section? do you want the dp and tp in one? do you want a light dp, or a slightly heavier one? shiny? dull? fitment is something that shouldn't be a question on here... no one wants a shitty fitting downpipe. also there is no such thing as best fitment for 9. it's pre acd and post acd. a post acd dp will fit a pre acd car.

3"ers

megan makes cheap dps they're flex section and they'll work well on non acd cars.
ttp engineering might actually use the same one but it's basically the same story.
the latest version may fit quite well on post acd cars.

helix makes a slightly heavy dp and it uses a donut gasket (which means it's 2.75 at the inlet). the latest version is good for post acd.

dcsports makes a great fitting dp and tp combo pipe. i've only ever heard of one foulup on the installation and i think it was due to the installation.

companies like turboxs and works bring out a very similar pipe that uses a donut but has the option for a true 3" donut.

3"ers are the only dps that have any proported fitment problems. i won't even mention them or the 3"ers that are known not to fit, (buschur, rmr, etc etc)

others can feel free to add to this known to fit list but keep in mind PLEASE. so much of dp fitment is based on installation. i've said it many times, but somehow rre got my helix version 1 to fit with one hanger and no rattles. what gives??? who knows.