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Evo8you
12-11-2006, 12:51 AM
I like this site, but it seems to me that there are more and more Cry Babies aka P#$sy's on this site than a few years ago. Or those of us becoming Cry Babies. I hope I'm wrong!!!

evofosizzo
12-11-2006, 04:45 AM
I like this site, but it seems to me that there are more and more Cry Babies aka P#$sy's on this site than a few years ago. Or those of us becoming Cry Babies. I hope I'm wrong!!!

are you one of them?


um..Â* is this socalevo politics(under political Arena)?

j_nizzle
12-11-2006, 10:52 AM
:'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(

ryan0
12-11-2006, 10:53 AM
I hope I'm wrong!!!


youre not

Blaze
12-11-2006, 10:56 AM
This seems better suited for the site feed-back forum or specialist lounge. But whatever.

The site has grown and is growing. And the bad apples are always the ones who will stand out.
Please don't judge the entire site based of a select few people who are a PITA.

Try not to focus so much on the people/posts that annoy you. Focus on the people and subjects that drew you into the community.
Positive attitudes can be contagious.
O0

-Blaze

ryan0
12-11-2006, 11:10 AM
Positive attitudes can be contagious.
O0

-Blaze


but goofing around can be entertaining too.. help people when they need help.. otherwise have fun and dont get your feelings hurt so easily.

Miss Evo8
12-11-2006, 01:28 PM
Positive attitudes can be contagious.
O0

-Blaze


but goofing around can be entertaining too.. help people when they need help.. otherwise have fun and dont get your feelings hurt so easily.


+1 on the goofing around stuff! the site would be boring without all the banter, lame comments, gay jokes, random bs, post whoring and shit talking...oh and my favorite Vendor wars with Ryan0s smart ass comments this past week !!!! Damn thats why I love SoCal Evo...

ryan0
12-11-2006, 02:05 PM
Damn thats why I love SoCal Evo...



i dont know why people dont understand it.. joking with people makes forums SO much more entertaining than just reading through cut and pastes from evom.

listen... its funny.. dont get your feelings hurt.. talk back.. then go to the track and have fun trying to back it up.. relax.. its just jokes.. believe me, while at the track most of us will go out of our way to help noobs.. mueller knows this, robi knows this.. anyone tracking as long as we have knows this.. i instructed this weekend, gave rides and even towed some broken evo back to OC while the dude drove my car.. so stop talking real world shit, when you have no idea.


anyway.. if you do something stupid on the forum you deserve to be made fun of.. if people laugh at you.. maybe you wont do it again.. it makes kind of a self-regulating society.. lots of c-specks bs posts fighting with other vendors stopped after people laughed at him.. he even deleted them himself.. it works.. but then he went postal in PMs.

so next comes physical/death threats.. if you resort to physical/death threats on the internet.. youve lost.. give up.. destroy your computer and off yourself.. if your hs education hasnt taught you to be any more clever than "im going to kill you", then you should be studying your alphabet instead of posting on this forum.

get a sense of humor and stop crying for people to save you.. SAVE YOURSELVES!

ps... this is my opinion.. dont warn/ban me for it.

Evo8you
12-11-2006, 03:53 PM
Jason, I was going thru the forums and posted on here, move it if you like.

Oh and trust me no one can hurt my fellings! Jokes are no prob it's all good. I'm a Mexican with an Evo what's more funnier than that?J/K. Maybe I am reading into it more than I should.

See ya,
Paul

j_nizzle
12-11-2006, 03:56 PM
:'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(


oh it's so sad...*slits wrists*

ryan0
12-11-2006, 04:00 PM
Maybe I am reading into it more than I should.


i was speaking in general to some of the whiners that you are talking about.

Evo8you
12-11-2006, 04:11 PM
^^^Yeah I know. I wasn't talking about my self.

trinydex
12-11-2006, 05:27 PM
I hope I'm wrong!!!


youre not
^ is one of them

trinydex
12-11-2006, 05:28 PM
Positive attitudes can be contagious.
O0

-Blaze


but goofing around can be entertaining too.. help people when they need help.. otherwise have fun and dont get your feelings hurt so easily.
hahaa try not to cry to admins when people wanna see what you say in person... seriously dude... if that's not wussy, hiding behind your computer screen then what is?

trinydex
12-11-2006, 05:29 PM
Positive attitudes can be contagious.
O0

-Blaze


but goofing around can be entertaining too.. help people when they need help.. otherwise have fun and dont get your feelings hurt so easily.


+1 on the goofing around stuff! the site would be boring without all the banter, lame comments, gay jokes, random bs, post whoring and shit talking...oh and my favorite Vendor wars with Ryan0s smart ass comments this past week !!!! Damn thats why I love SoCal Evo...
exactly what this forum is for.

trinydex
12-11-2006, 05:33 PM
Damn thats why I love SoCal Evo...



i dont know why people dont understand it.. joking with people makes forums SO much more entertaining than just reading through cut and pastes from evom.

listen... its funny.. dont get your feelings hurt.. talk back.. then go to the track and have fun trying to back it up.. relax.. its just jokes.. believe me, while at the track most of us will go out of our way to help noobs.. mueller knows this, robi knows this.. anyone tracking as long as we have knows this.. i instructed this weekend, gave rides and even towed some broken evo back to OC while the dude drove my car.. so stop talking real world shit, when you have no idea.


anyway.. if you do something stupid on the forum you deserve to be made fun of.. if people laugh at you.. maybe you wont do it again.. it makes kind of a self-regulating society.. lots of c-specks bs posts fighting with other vendors stopped after people laughed at him.. he even deleted them himself.. it works.. but then he went postal in PMs.

so next comes physical/death threats.. if you resort to physical/death threats on the internet.. youve lost.. give up.. destroy your computer and off yourself.. if your hs education hasnt taught you to be any more clever than "im going to kill you", then you should be studying your alphabet instead of posting on this forum.

get a sense of humor and stop crying for people to save you.. SAVE YOURSELVES!

ps... this is my opinion.. dont warn/ban me for it.
dude... you're not the only person helping people off the site. and it's funny you patronize the same type of driveway tuner that you made fun of. and i'm sure you'll say it was all jokes and shit but really... you're not the only one helping people. and if all you do online is make a nuisance of yourself then what is anyone supposed to think? you can be all you want in real life but that's a different place from here isn't it???

so if you want to be a nuisance online and a hero in real life. see yah later. byebyezors. if you wanna help people online. I WELCOME. you can look around the site there's more than 10 places where i'm askin people for help.

it's funny you didn't call out cspeckzors in a tuning match... maybe cuz you can't tune your own car and you'd lose... funny how we like to play up our strengths and hide our weaknesses.

if it's a self reulating society who regulates the funny guy that makes people angry? well... i guess that'd be me huh... so why do you complain about this self regulation???

dude... i hope your high school or otherwise education taught you to be more than a self righteous troublestarter that then hides behind authorities when he gets himself into too much. it's all about takin' it easy right... too bad "there's nothing more annoying than calmness." you're a coward. if you can't back up whatever it is on all angles then don't talk. if you can... then go ahead and talk as much as your brain allows. hmm... funny, there be a balance in life... there's more than one type of strength.... and i don't know... classically it's good to have a reverance for ALL types. but maybe since we're on the internet that no longer has to be the case.

fuck man... some kids just needa get slapped when they're young. otherwise they turn into bold cowards

and it's all lies nad diversion... that's your game. you say haha guys just laff a little don't get so worked up. but you're trying to work people up. deceptive... nothing more than a liar. you were even trying the same shit in irc with rob and dino watching... oh but cspec started it... gimme a break... did you not make it through elementary school?

SpdyEvo02
12-11-2006, 05:35 PM
the old socalevo is gone and is dead just get over it but it will be missed

EvoPwr
12-11-2006, 06:11 PM
wow this is the way a moderator acts on socal? so sad socalevo has turned into this.

trinydex
12-11-2006, 07:53 PM
what... did you forget who rich was? this is political section... anyone can say wahtever they want.

EvoPwr
12-11-2006, 08:01 PM
what... did you forget who rich was? this is political section... anyone can say wahtever they want.


yes sir i know what section this is, but to see your name all over the forums about this is another story.

and yes i do know Rich, inside and outside of this forum :mitsu:

trinydex
12-11-2006, 08:02 PM
see my name all over the forums about what?

EvoPwr
12-11-2006, 08:04 PM
i dont know i saw it other places at some point or another...meh

trinydex
12-11-2006, 08:07 PM
ok....

ryan0
12-12-2006, 08:19 AM
hahaa try not to cry to admins when people wanna see what you say in person... seriously dude... if that's not wussy, hiding behind your computer screen then what is?


you have GOT to be joking.. you PMed me trying to feel important and stick your nose in.. i NEVER contacted you.

should i post the PMs?.. or will you cry about how they are private information again?

ryan0
12-12-2006, 08:33 AM
it's funny you patronize the same type of driveway tuner that you made fun of.


speaking of joking.. the flip-spec posts were sarcastic.. have your english teacher explain that to you.



you can be all you want in real life but that's a different place from here isn't it?


yeah.. real life is different.. incase you have confused the two.



if you wanna help people online. I WELCOME.


youre right.. i SHOULD help more.. maybe ill just spend the day today cross posting all the tech articles from evom.



it's funny you didn't call out cspeckzors in a tuning match... maybe cuz you can't tune your own car and you'd lose


and all of us DID call out c-speckzors to SOW. he said he was coming.. but alas.. never showed.



if it's a self reulating society who regulates the funny guy that makes people angry? well... i guess that'd be me huh... so why do you complain about this self regulation???


ok.. time to grab the old dictionary again.. self-regulating.. self.. so by definition.. YOU cant regulate what others do.. good try though.. 'funny police'.



hides behind authorities when he gets himself into too much.


again.. i will post your initial busy bee, nosey, 'whats going on here' post if yould like.



you're a coward. if you can't back up whatever it is on all angles then don't talk.


youre calling me a coward and you dont know me.. niice.. besides.. how do you back up a death threat?.. should i kill them first?.. is that your solution instead of 'being mean' to them on the internet?



fuck man... some kids just needa get slapped when they're young. otherwise they turn into bold cowards


or they turn into all important mods who delete peoples posts unilaterally

trinydex
12-12-2006, 10:24 AM
real life is different, i never tried to make what i do online important in real life. i have real life for that.

hey man... if you want to cross post i welcome it. it's one less thing i have to do. btw what's hard about towing someone's car... it's not hard, but it's the EFFORT and TIME that's considered help. thanks.

i'd still love to see you tune a car.

self regulating SOCIETY as you yourself first stated (a society which i happen to be apart of awww unfortunate for you boobooweeeweee)... good try. and i don't wanna be 'funny police' do you get the point yet? i don't want to clean up after you. i don't want to hear about your from 5 other members on the site. thanks.

you can post whatever you want from me. you're the one that first pmed me about "why do you delete things you don't understand" and got unhappy (oh but i'm sure you don't care... so why are you still talking?) when I started "joking around".... funny how that works.

i think we already know what the solution for you on the internet is.

you know there's actually absolutely nothing wrong with your last comment regarding me. thanks. maybe one day you'll be on the 'correct' side of that line.

ryan0
12-12-2006, 10:32 AM
i'd still love to see you tune a car.


send me your car.




i don't wanna be 'funny police'.


so dont.



i don't want to clean up after you.


so dont.



i don't want to hear about your from 5 other members on the site. thanks.


the whiners?



you can post whatever you want from me. you're the one that first pmed me about "why do you delete things you don't understand" and got unhappy (oh but i'm sure you don't care... so why are you still talking?) when I started "joking around".... funny how that works.

i think we already know what the solution for you on the internet is.

you know there's actually absolutely nothing wrong with your last comment regarding me. thanks. maybe one day you'll be on the 'correct' side of that line.


that all just seems like incoherent babble.. sorry.. if you can straighten those thoughts out i may be able to respond.

trinydex
12-12-2006, 10:36 AM
hah try reading in order wtih regards to your posts. there's paragraphing for a reason. but whatevers, i've spoken my peace.

ryan0
12-12-2006, 10:37 AM
hah try reading in order wtih regards to your posts. there's paragraphing for a reason.


oh.. i thought there was a 'quote' function for a reason.

trinydex
12-12-2006, 10:41 AM
there is, but typing in all the forum mark up is tedius.

GokuSSJ4
12-12-2006, 10:44 AM
Try not to focus so much on the people/posts that annoy you. Focus on the people and subjects that drew you into the community.
Positive attitudes can be contagious.
O0

-Blaze

+1

Ricardon
12-12-2006, 11:58 AM
anyway.. if you do something stupid on the forum you deserve to be made fun of.. if people laugh at you.. maybe you wont do it again.. it makes kind of a self-regulating society..Â* lots of c-specks bs posts fighting with other vendors stopped after people laughed at him.. he even deleted them himself.. it works..

Ok seriously...this part of the post is about the most relevant thing I have read here in months. Terry is going to have to step aside as winner of the internet for a bit. Anyone that thinks Ryan is an ass...that's totally fine, but you simply cannot argue with the logic in the quote above. It is EXACTLY the way forums have been operating for years.


On a side note: I wasn't that bad was I? Anyway, my style of forum moderation was always influenced by the same logic as above. If this place wants to be a lolforum, cool. If this place wants to be a real enthusiast organization, awesome. It cannot be both at the same time. The problem I see is that for a long time it has tried to be both and, more recently, when you try to please everyone...you piss everyone off. It is what it is I guess.


And lol at the let's all think happy thawtz comments and +1's to that shit. It works in theory, but it's obviously not working for whatever reason here.

leaveit2bevo
12-12-2006, 12:09 PM
anyway.. if you do something stupid on the forum you deserve to be made fun of.. if people laugh at you.. maybe you wont do it again.. it makes kind of a self-regulating society.. lots of c-specks bs posts fighting with other vendors stopped after people laughed at him.. he even deleted them himself.. it works..

Ok seriously...this part of the post is about the most relevant thing I have read here in months. Terry is going to have to step aside as winner of the internet for a bit. Anyone that thinks Ryan is an ass...that's totally fine, but you simply cannot argue with the logic in the quote above. It is EXACTLY the way forums have been operating for years.


On a side note: I wasn't that bad was I? Anyway, my style of forum moderation was always influenced by the same logic as above. If this place wants to be a lolforum, cool. If this place wants to be a real enthusiast organization, awesome. It cannot be both at the same time. The problem I see is that for a long time it has tried to be both and, more recently, when you try to please everyone...you piss everyone off. It is what it is I guess.


And lol at the let's all think happy thawtz comments and +1's to that shit. It works in theory, but it's obviously not working for whatever reason here.


you mean like this? http://img292.imageshack.us/img292/3156/rich1nl7.jpg

Terry S
12-12-2006, 12:15 PM
Hey, that's a quality contribution to the forum...

Terry S

silvery_eagle
12-12-2006, 12:17 PM
ohmygosh he posted it... ROFL

Ricardon
12-12-2006, 02:54 PM
You won't see me crying about that though right? Thanks for proving my point. It's one thing when people haze you because they are your friends (at least I think you're my friend beeeever). That IS actually contributing to the community...albeit a little vulgar and off color, but hey fk it right?

trinydex
12-12-2006, 04:46 PM
rich you make contradicting points. i loved your method of moderation, you toss the trolls as soon as they appear and to be quite frank i think that's what the 'staff' is missing now.

for one... ryan is making this place a lawl forum. it's all for his lawls. of course cspec fucked up, that's natural. now he's gone. but the troll's still here.

ryan0
12-12-2006, 04:48 PM
but the troll's still here.


so im a troll?.. why?

looks like im the only entertaining thing to post in this place for years.

trinydex
12-12-2006, 04:50 PM
once again... lawl forum, or enthusiast site. are you seeing yet?

ryan0
12-12-2006, 04:55 PM
once again... lawl forum, or enthusiast site. are you seeing yet?


dude. evom is the enthusiast site.. i go there if i need to learn something.. (you know this too cause thats why you steal all their articles)..

i come here cause its a smaller community and more fun and personable..

maybe you should try out for admin there instead of trying to make socalevo into evom.

trinydex
12-12-2006, 05:04 PM
evom is a mess... i bring the information here so that people can read without hte mess. and we have lots of things that evom doesn't have, as in information and resources from certain shops. if you like it there, then find your niche and lawl away. no need to come here and crack open a niche.

what i find so ironic is that you A just conceded you have no desires to help this site accrue information. B are not friendly or personable towards members on this forum which you didn't meet in person beforehand. so what are you doin' here? go play in real life, no need to troll around and piss people off.

ryan0
12-12-2006, 05:05 PM
evom is a mess... i bring the information here so that people can read without hte mess. and we have lots of things that evom doesn't have. if you like it there, then find your niche and lawl away.


did you bother to read what i wrote?.. take your time.. no one is rushing you.

trinydex
12-12-2006, 05:07 PM
read the edits

trinydex
12-12-2006, 05:11 PM
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=troll

troll 362 up, 55 down

One who purposely and deliberately (that purpose usually being self-amusement) starts an argument in a manner which attacks others on a forum without in any way listening to the arguments proposed by his or her peers. He will spark of such an argument via the use of ad hominem attacks (i.e. 'you're nothing but a fanboy' is a popular phrase) with no substance or relevence to back them up as well as straw man arguments, which he uses to simply avoid addressing the essence of the issue.

and this is how you're a troll

Ricardon
12-12-2006, 05:20 PM
I will have to agree with Triny on the fact that Evom is very much not an enthusiast site. Â*That place was/is/always will be the epitome of the anti-enthusiast site. Â*Sure, there's a ton of information there. Â*There should be with the sheer amount of members and time it's been around. Â*This community was started as the anti-evom, I even think that we used that specific wording hahahaha. Â*But its becoming more and more like evom everyday. Â*Lotta vendors, lotta people whoring out to vendors, lotta people getting away with bullshit etc...

And to my moderating style...you're right Triny. Â*I used to have even a bigger ban stick than Dino. Â*Dino has always been a loose cannon, and I used to be the same or in some cases more trigger happy. Â*I would actually prefer things to be taken care of naturally though. Â*People who get run out by the members don't need to be banned. Â*But some people just needed to be banned before they could be run out. Â*

But now, in the interest of not rocking the boat, people rarely get the ban stick and at the same time all arguments get deleted or cut out. Â*So, trolls arent canned by moderation, nor by natural selection (being run out by the population)...so what's this lead to...more trolls.

This topic makes my ass twitch.

Ricardon
12-12-2006, 05:24 PM
YOURE NOTHING BUT A FANBOY TRINY!!!!!!!!!

trinydex
12-12-2006, 05:26 PM
hehehe and that with i can now un notify

EvoPwr
12-12-2006, 05:27 PM
I will have to agree with Triny on the fact that Evom is very much not an enthusiast site. That place was/is/always will be the epitome of the anti-enthusiast site. Sure, there's a ton of information there. There should be with the sheer amount of members and time it's been around. This community was started as the anti-evom, I even think that we used that specific wording hahahaha. But its becoming more and more like evom everyday. Lotta vendors, lotta people whoring out to vendors, lotta people getting away with bullshit etc...

And to my moderating style...you're right Triny. I used to have even a bigger ban stick than Dino. Dino has always been a loose cannon, and I used to be the same or in some cases more trigger happy. I would actually prefer things to be taken care of naturally though. People who get run out by the members don't need to be banned. But some people just needed to be banned before they could be run out.

But now, in the interest of not rocking the boat, people rarely get the ban stick and at the same time all arguments get deleted or cut out. So, trolls arent canned by moderation, nor by natural selection (being run out by the population)...so what's this lead to...more trolls.

This topic makes my ass twitch.


Rich, this almost feels like deja vu :grin: :mitsu:

Ricardon
12-12-2006, 07:17 PM
Dude, tel me about it bro. Hmmmmm...I may have had this conversation just a couple of times? It's getting to be just like my deer on latigo story!!

ryan0
12-13-2006, 08:21 AM
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=troll

without in any way listening to the arguments proposed by his or her peers.

He will spark of such an argument via the use of ad hominem attacks with no substance or relevence to back them up as well as straw man arguments, which he uses to simply avoid addressing the essence of the issue.


see this is where you are wrong... well actually youre wrong a lot.. but we'll just focus on the 'troll' thing.

my post are all relavent and have great substance.. never have i just called some one a name randomly.

you really should concentrate more.. and next time youre in the 'outside' world, maybe ricardon can explain things to you using visual aids or something.

Ricardon
12-13-2006, 11:18 AM
Oh gawd...keep me out of the middle of your little spat you guys hahahahahaha. You guys both need to get a room and have mad passionate secks. I can supervise if you want...you know, make sure you guys are having a good time...I can even bring toys and videos.

All seriousness...I like you both and maybe you guys need to go to the same meet or something so you can talk in person. Hey, it works. One example: Smoggy and I used to be at each others throats (sort of) on the boards, and while we still have differing opinions on a lot of things, we are a lot more respectful of each others arguments. Meh, internet arguments are fun too.




TROLLS!!!!!!

ryan0
12-13-2006, 11:27 AM
TROLLS!!!!!!


PEACE MONGER!!

heh.. i dont have a problem with him.. (oh.. except saying i cried to him for help.. that was bs)..

having differing opinions is what most forum people do.. calling names and banning is not the way to deal with it..

we can argue back and forth all day.. its funny to me.. just try and make semi-valid points.

leaveit2bevo
12-13-2006, 12:30 PM
everybody wants heaven but nobody wants death.

Terry S
12-13-2006, 12:36 PM
everybody wants heaven but nobody wants death.


I want death....





for lots of people.

Terry S

ryan0
12-13-2006, 02:04 PM
everybody wants heaven but nobody wants death.


what the hell does that mean?

Ricardon
12-13-2006, 02:09 PM
That might be a sig oportunity for you Bevo. Good quote hahaha.

ryan0
12-13-2006, 02:10 PM
That might be a sig oportunity for you Bevo. Good quote hahaha.


isnt it some christian song?

leaveit2bevo
12-13-2006, 04:20 PM
hahaha no its a sick song sole- dumb this down.

ryan0
12-13-2006, 04:22 PM
hahaha no its a sick song sole- dumb this down.



dude.. speak english.

leaveit2bevo
12-13-2006, 04:33 PM
its a song called dumb this down by sole, do you need me to sound it out for you?

Terenus
12-14-2006, 02:29 PM
Sing it for him too.

Ricardon
12-15-2006, 11:02 AM
Cry Babies!!

Miss Evo8
12-15-2006, 06:09 PM
:laugh: