Cams

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What cams do you guys offer?

[8YERV8]

HKS and GSC are the two Alfred uses most. 264/264 or 272/272. The 264's will give you more bottom end as the 272's pull more to redline. You need to actually call the shop for more info. Not always do they have time to reply to posts on here. 909-783-1200. Hope this helps.

Brandon

[GokuSSJ4]

ah, the eternal debate on which cams to get ... i believe TT can get just about any cam brand out there. Also you have to consider whether there for an VIII or a IX
If there for an VIII, these are some of the cams that TT has dealt with:
Jun
HKS , 264/264,272/272,280/280 (stagger set ups as well)
GSC
Piper cams (not very popular)
Cosworth
For the IX:
GSC, GSC S1
Cosworth
and tuning just the exhaust cam (like a 272 or a 280 HKS cam)
so it depends what your goal and how much you are willing to spend $$$$$$

[Ralph]

I'm personally trying out the GSC 272 exhaust cam only - in my IX.. I've seen good results but not many people are picking up on the idea, though. We'll see how it goes :D

And at $200 shipped BRAND new from GSC.. why not?

[Evo8urv8]

GSC 272s installed from TT = FTW :D

And sup, Ralph? How did u guys do at Famoso? I heard justaneon did low 12's

[Ralph]

GSC 272s installed from TT = FTW :D

And sup, Ralph? How did u guys do at Famoso? I heard justaneon did low 12's


Sup? Ran 12.1 w/1.69 60 foot.. My tune was hella rich/low timing but after I went and changed it I got no more runs.... (2 total!)

I'll be well within 11's next time out with the Cam and a few more goodies currently on their way/waiting to be installed :D

Who were you again ^_^?

[GokuSSJ4]

I'm personally trying out the GSC 272 exhaust cam only - in my IX.. I've seen good results but not many people are picking up on the idea, though. We'll see how it goes :D

And at $200 shipped BRAND new from GSC.. why not?
why not add both cams offer by GSC ...

[Ralph]

I'm personally trying out the GSC 272 exhaust cam only - in my IX.. I've seen good results but not many people are picking up on the idea, though. We'll see how it goes :D

And at $200 shipped BRAND new from GSC.. why not?
why not add both cams offer by GSC ...


I haven't saw real good track results with the S1s from GSC.. But I've saw multiple people pull 116-119 out of the GSC Exhaust Cam only. I want to see what I can do with it, and after some SOLID RESULTS being posted by S1's or S2's I'll go with one of them.

[Evo8urv8]

Sup? Ran 12.1 w/1.69 60 foot.. My tune was hella rich/low timing but after I went and changed it I got no more runs.... (2 total!)

I'll be well within 11's next time out with the Cam and a few more goodies currently on their way/waiting to be installed :D

Who were you again ^_^?

Sorry to hear that ur hella rich and low timing and not enough runs. Still good for minor mods though and good 60' O0

Hope u'll hit 11's on the next runs. Im most likely to be there in May :D

BTW, ur getting ur cams too from TT? If so, do it, VERY good shop and nice people to deal with. O0

[GokuSSJ4]

is the big difference just the intake cam, while they maintain the exhaust cam the same ????
i would of figure that they woulld of made the Mivec cams a bit different than what they offer on the VIII's...

[Ralph]

Sorry to hear that ur hella rich and low timing and not enough runs. Still good for minor mods though and good 60' O0

Hope u'll hit 11's on the next runs. Im most likely to be there in May :D


Hope to see you there dude, it sucks though that the freaking next Test and Tune is 9 weeks away! grrr.

[Ralph]

http://forums.evolutionm.net/showthread.php?t=235538&highlight=gsc+272

One of the good runs with GSC 272 Exhaust cam only

mods: ebay 02 housing, 3" downpipe and testpipe mated to stock cat back, panel filter, Forge MBC, GSC 272 exhaust cam, AMS licp, 100 octane with AMS Flash dyno'd at 321 whp and 358 ft lbs

Granted, it is DANimal.. haha.

There are a few others with good times but I can't find them..

11.42 @ 118 1.6 60 ft AMS flash, 3" downpipe & testpipe, forge MBC, 272 GSC exhaust cam, drop in filter Evo 9
Danimal.

[Evo8urv8]

Hope to see you there dude, it sucks though that the freaking next Test and Tune is 9 weeks away! grrr.


I MIGHT go to Palmdale on the 31st of this month for IDRC's last Battle of the Imports in Palmdale. Heard that a couple of TT Evos are going too. U down? :grin:

[Ralph]

I MIGHT go to Palmdale on the 31st of this month for IDRC's last Battle of the Imports in Palmdale. Heard that a couple of TT Evos are going too. U down? :grin:


A friend of mine invited me to go out there also..... I'll think about it. Definitely will go if I get all my parts installed by then =P. Is that track as fast as Famoso?

[Evo8urv8]

A friend of mine invited me to go out there also..... I'll think about it. Definitely will go if I get all my parts installed by then =P. Is that track as fast as Famoso?


I dunno, it's been a long while since the last time I went there and never been there with my evo (yet) :laugh:

[flipryder21]

I'm running 272 GSC intake/exhaust on my 8 and loving it, car pulls harder than before. Â*Also depends on how you set it.

[Evo8urv8]

I'm running 272 GSC intake/exhaust on my 8 and loving it, car pulls harder than before. Also depends on how you set it.


Thats true, it does pull harder than before. And I have the same cams as u do. O0

[GokuSSJ4]

http://forums.evolutionm.net/showthread.php?t=235538&highlight=gsc+272

One of the good runs with GSC 272 Exhaust cam only

mods: ebay 02 housing, 3" downpipe and testpipe mated to stock cat back, panel filter, Forge MBC, GSC 272 exhaust cam, AMS licp, 100 octane with AMS Flash dyno'd at 321 whp and 358 ft lbs

Granted, it is DANimal.. haha.

There are a few others with good times but I can't find them..

11.42 @ 118 1.6 60 ft AMS flash, 3" downpipe & testpipe, forge MBC, 272 GSC exhaust cam, drop in filter Evo 9
Danimal.

running the GSC 272 cams will allow more TQ ????
are those the same specs as the GSC S1 or is that just the intake cam ?

[Ralph]

http://forums.evolutionm.net/showthread.php?t=235538&highlight=gsc+272

One of the good runs with GSC 272 Exhaust cam only

mods: ebay 02 housing, 3" downpipe and testpipe mated to stock cat back, panel filter, Forge MBC, GSC 272 exhaust cam, AMS licp, 100 octane with AMS Flash dyno'd at 321 whp and 358 ft lbs

Granted, it is DANimal.. haha.

There are a few others with good times but I can't find them..

11.42 @ 118 1.6 60 ft AMS flash, 3" downpipe & testpipe, forge MBC, 272 GSC exhaust cam, drop in filter Evo 9
Danimal.

running the GSC 272 cams will allow more TQ ????
are those the same specs as the GSC S1 or is that just the intake cam ?


I'm not sure the GSC S1 specs, but I'm purchasing soley the Exhaust cam, intake cam is staying stock for now =P

[fusionchicken]

GSC 272s installed from TT = FTW :D

And sup, Ralph? How did u guys do at Famoso? I heard justaneon did low 12's


Sup? Ran 12.1 w/1.69 60 foot.. My tune was hella rich/low timing but after I went and changed it I got no more runs.... (2 total!)

I'll be well within 11's next time out with the Cam and a few more goodies currently on their way/waiting to be installed :D

Who were you again ^_^?


a bit off topic, but what are your mods during this run (12.1), and were you on pump gas? thanks.

great 60' btw!

[Ralph]

a bit off topic, but what are your mods during this run (12.1), and were you on pump gas? thanks.

great 60' btw!


Pump gas? Hell no, lol. Its not quite that quick on pump yet, it could be soon though.

Mods are simple:

Intake Filter
Downpipe
Test Pipe
Catback Exhaust
MBC @ 24~ lbs (I think, gauge is off, new one on the way.)
ACT 2900 HDSS Clutch
Tires are Falken Azenis RT615 in 245/45/17 (A little more diameter than stock)
My Personal Tune (in progress)

Gas was a a few gallons 91 plus a couple gallons 110 leaded.

AFR's were 11.2~ across board, which was changed but didn't get another run
Timing was able to be increased also

0 Knock.

I've got that 272 Camshaft on the way, upgraded O2 housing, and fuel pump to be installed this weekend.. it'll come alive after that both on pump and on race gas.

Ralph

[fusionchicken]

a bit off topic, but what are your mods during this run (12.1), and were you on pump gas? thanks.

great 60' btw!


Pump gas? Hell no, lol. Its not quite that quick on pump yet, it could be soon though.

Mods are simple:

Intake Filter
Downpipe
Test Pipe
Catback Exhaust
MBC @ 24~ lbs (I think, gauge is off, new one on the way.)
ACT 2900 HDSS Clutch
Tires are Falken Azenis RT615 in 245/45/17 (A little more diameter than stock)
My Personal Tune (in progress)

Gas was a a few gallons 91 plus a couple gallons 110 leaded.

AFR's were 11.2~ across board, which was changed but didn't get another run
Timing was able to be increased also

0 Knock.

I've got that 272 Camshaft on the way, upgraded O2 housing, and fuel pump to be installed this weekend.. it'll come alive after that both on pump and on race gas.

Ralph


haha thanks. i hope i'll be able to tune my own car soon...O0

[GokuSSJ4]

ralph
what is the output on your 12.1 second run ? have you had the opportunity to dyno the car on your half 91 and half 110 ???

[fusionchicken]

ralph
what is the output on your 12.1 second run ? have you had the opportunity to dyno the car on your half 91 and half 110 ???


once he gives his trap speed it will be much easier to estimate the power output on dynojet or mustang/DD...

[GokuSSJ4]

ralph
what is the output on your 12.1 second run ? have you had the opportunity to dyno the car on your half 91 and half 110 ???


once he gives his trap speed it will be much easier to estimate the power output on dynojet or mustang/DD...
nice! loll i have seem something similar in NCE.. they can estimate whp by times ...

[Ralph]

ralph
what is the output on your 12.1 second run ? have you had the opportunity to dyno the car on your half 91 and half 110 ???


It was only 111. I short shifted two gears badly. On the first run traps were 113 (but lower timing) The 12.1 run should have had more topend to it but its all good. ;)

[Evo8you]

The S2 cam is 272 with more lift and you might need an updated valve train, not sure but i can check for you.



Paul

[GokuSSJ4]

shame that TT doesnt post more results on some of there findings with cams (specially for the IX) or maybe not enough peeps with great results or decent results in order to determine whether cams at the moment are worth it or not

[Alfred@TTech]

Quite honestly Tomas, there just aren't many guys upgrading their camshafts on the IX. We report EVERY result we get and dont leave any out just because the results were less than stellar. We have always been very honest and forthright with our tuning results and information over the years. If anyone has any questions feel free to pm me.

Alfred

[GokuSSJ4]

Quite honestly Tomas, there just aren't many guys upgrading their camshafts on the IX. We report EVERY result we get and dont leave any out just because the results were less than stellar. We have always been very honest and forthright with our tuning results and information over the years. If anyone has any questions feel free to pm me.

Alfred

reason why i mentioned that, there hasnt been any post besides 2 of them .. it just seem rare and odd that not many peeps (like you mentioned) have try out the cams.. i understand that you guys have a good demand for tuning and evo needs .... also hadnt seen you active on the boards for quite sometime.. so didnt know if you guys had results and just didnt have time to post them (regardless of the outcome )

[Ralph]

I'll be posting how my track times improve end of this month @ Palmdale. I guess its a battle of the imports or something there.. Local track is closed for 8 weeks so why not travel for some fun :D.

Additional Mods after 12.1 @ 111 - GSC 272 Exhaust Camshaft, Rnr O2 Housing (Basically a Ebay) and will install a Walbro 255 thats sitting in my garage :D. Should be some good gains I think.

[GokuSSJ4]

keep in mind that Pamdale has a different altitude that affects ET's drastically.
From what they have posted on the site (awhile ago) from doing a Sea level track vs Pamdale the Et's are off by .4-.5 second difference.. so depending on which track you ran the 12.1 it wouldnt be a fair test. Also i notice on an add that they might be closing Pamdale... hopefully this isnt true but the track does need some work :buck2:

[Evo8urv8]

I'll be posting how my track times improve end of this month @ Palmdale. I guess its a battle of the imports or something there.. Local track is closed for 8 weeks so why not travel for some fun :D.

Additional Mods after 12.1 @ 111 - GSC 272 Exhaust Camshaft, Rnr O2 Housing (Basically a Ebay) and will install a Walbro 255 thats sitting in my garage :D. Should be some good gains I think.


I'll run u there, i mean, I'll see u there (hopefully) :D

[Ralph]

Actually didn't end up going ^_^;

But so far the cam has the car feeling strong top-end.. and dataloglab's dynograph shows I lost very little low end til 4600~rpm, then gains all the way til redline ;). we'll see whats up i guess in 4 weeks @ famoso ;)

[evobeaner]

I MIGHT go to Palmdale on the 31st of this month for IDRC's last Battle of the Imports in Palmdale. Heard that a couple of TT Evos are going too. U down? :grin:


A friend of mine invited me to go out there also..... I'll think about it. Definitely will go if I get all my parts installed by then =P. Is that track as fast as Famoso?






hell no bro.
bakersfield rules.

[LiquidLife]

HKS and GSC are the two Alfred uses most. 264/264 or 272/272. The 264's will give you more bottom end as the 272's pull more to redline. You need to actually call the shop for more info. Not always do they have time to reply to posts on here. 909-783-1200. Hope this helps.

Brandon


How much for the 272's / and install? I might add that to my list on top of TT Stg. 1 for my Evo IX (Stage 1 includes: Drop in filter, TBE, MBC, Fuel pump, and Tune)

[Ralph]

My 272 Exhaust Cam (Single) $200 shipped. Install: FREE - its not hard to do.

[LiquidLife]

Thanks dude ^, but I want the pricing from TT also, and price for install.

[Evorob]

Why is a fuel pump on the stg 1 for the IX's from TT??? I remember reading that the fuel pump on the IX's was more than adequate on the stock turbo, that it is barely outflowed by a walbro 255, whereas the VIII suffers from a pretty weak fuel pump and that's why upgrading it on the VIII is so imperative...