Mfq Rocks ! Charlies 4 am tunning session

[awdlancer]

this is what charlie can do on his 6 th cup of double shot of starbucks coffee lol
Mods :
Buschur cat back exhaust
catco high flow cat
helix 3'' downpipe
ported exhaust mani
port match intake mani
indivia O2 housing
hks 272 cams
aem cam gears
arp head studs
walbro 255
Ets 3" FMIC
Ets LIcp
RRE no name clutch
works trottle body
brian crower springs and retainers
720 denso injectors
buschur intakeÂ*
dejon manual boost controller
mfq's special sauce
Stock 8 turbo
thanks Randy for taking care of the install
http://i35.tinypic.com/4zucj.jpg

[Charlie@MFQ]

i'm glad you're happy. You have the highest stock evo 8 turbo on my dyno. Also post the other graph before and after. O0

[awdlancer]

http://i36.tinypic.com/2hxy54i.jpg here it goes ...
i am more than happy i owe you some starbucks lol

[Charlie@MFQ]

remember the neighbor call the cops on us. ROFL. damn street racerrrr

[awdlancer]

haha i told you we should have told him, the road was closed pizza boy ! lol
it was well worth it 1st time i had seen my car launched and mang i loved it cant wait to drag it

[06ssdevo9]

Me next! LOL



Julio I thought you were gonna get those sheets scanned not take pictures :D

[g1ovan13]

congrats

[silvrEVOIXn818]

congrats! Â*those are some nice gains! Â*well done Charlie Â*O0

[awdlancer]

i am definetly going out there if you go ryan pick a monday wink wink ( day off)
oh you noticed lol i was too lazy to go find a scanner so i did the next best thing lol

[silvrEVOIXn818]

remember the neighbor call the cops on us. ROFL. damn street racerrrr


gotta love the sound of an evo @ WOT, @ 4 am... Â*bump for a tuner open @ any time

[alan678]

Ahh....4am tuning....gotta love it...have had to do a few of those myself :D

Except we don't have the cops called on us. U need to get into a 3 shift zone area Charlie!

[06ssdevo9]

i am definetly going out there if you go ryan pick a monday wink wink ( day off)
oh you noticed lol i was too lazy to go find a scanner so i did the next best thing lol


Bwahha. I need to install all my stuff first! and of course I noticed it was picture. HAHAH.

[anxiouz]

Wow, nice work.

[ev0lution]

doesnt that say you got 284 hp on an evo 8 with all those mods. am i retarded or isn't that bad?

[vial8or]

doesnt that say you got 284 hp on an evo 8 with all those mods. am i retarded or isn't that bad?


LMAO its cool, I was thinking the same. I was expecting minimum low 300's

[JDMboi]

at least 300

[Triton]

^+1 that seems low...

[KT Motoring]

doesnt that say you got 284 hp on an evo 8 with all those mods. am i retarded or isn't that bad?


you realize what kind of dyno he was on right ?. Also look at the base line dyno and after. You guys should ask those guy on dyno day. What kind of mods they have those were making 240-267whp. ;) If you want 300whp easily take it to a Dildojet O0

[vial8or]

Eh...I saw the before and after. It was like a 50whp gain

That seems low for cams, TBE, tune, plus every other mod there is

[Charlie@MFQ]

here's a good example. you can see all his mods in his signature. Not trying to start a flame war or calling people out. lol

anxiouz
http://www.socalevo.net/forum/index.php?topic=62130.105



Eh...I saw the before and after. It was like a 50whp gain

That seems low for cams, TBE, tune, plus every other mod there is


the base run was done with all the mods before tune@ same boost level. Not base line without the mods O0

[ev0lution]

then that dyno reads very very very low. with those mods you should have like 340+ on a dynojet

[j_nizzle]

then that dyno reads very very very low. with those mods you should have like 340+ on a dynojet


cant read load on a dynojet.

[CASH$ MONEY]

284 sounds about right. 310-315 dyno jet. Thats where the 8 will sit with those Mods.


congrats O0

[ev0lution]

then 8's suck. lol

[anxiouz]

+1 on that dyno reading ridiculously, shamefully, soul-crushingly, embarassingly low.Â* Realistic...but freaking low. After you dyno your car at MFQ they hand you a Kleenex :'( so that you can try to compose yourself before facing the people there watching.

To me it's more important to compare this to other Evos that have used the same dyno. These results are damn good given what people were putting down the other day with all kinds of variations of mods.

[kimletrim]

^^yeah. But don't be fooled by the low numbers either. You'd be amazed at number of times cars with "low" DD numbers have schooled way more powerful DynoJet numbers.

[EVO Neil]

It's 100 horsepower more than stock for that dyno, what's wrong with that? Nice numbers!

[jdmitr]

mfq's special sauce



uhm.. like soy sauce? lol seriously what is it?

[choicelaw]

Congrats to OP and MFQ! Â*Enjoy the new power! Â*And meh to all this dyno number bashing nonsense... Â*its a dead horse, quit beating it. . .

[fuleinjection23]

stole this from tampa racing.


Why is a loading dyno (Dyno Dynamics) better than an inertia dyno (dynojet)? - Loading dynos are better than inertia dynos for a number of reasons.

A) Steady State Tuning - Steady state tuning is the highlight of the loading dyno. Because the loading dyno uses an electric brake to keep the rollers from accelerating it is able to precisely vary how much load is placed on the cars engine. When the dyno exerts as much load on the engine as the engine is putting out, the rollers will stop accelerating and hold a constant speed. Because the engine is not accelerating we call this a steady state. During this time the dyno is measuring the load between the brake and the car and outputs a live power number. This is very useful for tuners because it allows them to make changes to each part of the ignition/fuel map and monitor the power gains or losses in real time. With an inertia dyno there is no way to keep the rollers from accelerating and therefore no way to hold a steady state. The engine simply accelerates through the ignition/fuel maps too quickly.

B) More precise measurement - Because inertia dynos use a heavy mass to simulate the inertia of the car being tested it is hard to monitor minor changes in power. The large mass of the rollers results in very minor changes in roller speed that inertia dyno sensors have a hard time picking up. If the sensor and computer don't see the change in roller speed the the dyno graph will not show a dip in power. However, a loading dyno uses rollers with very little mass and directly measures power rather than calculating it. Quick drops in power will be picked up by the load sensor and will show on the dyno graph. This is very useful for finding problems and ensuring that your engine is running correctly.

C) Load can be controlled - With an inertia dyno the load exerted on the engine as it accelerates is based on the inertia of the dyno rollers. This inertia is set by the mass of the rollers and is not able to be changed. The inertia of the dyno rollers directly determines how fast the cars engine will accelerate through each gear. Ideally this inertia would be equal to the inertia of the car being tested but this is rarely the case. The inertia is almost always going to be higher or lower than the inertia of the car and as a result the engine accelerates faster or slower than it would on the street. This can have a bearing on how the engine is tuned and how accurate the dyno replicates real life conditions. Because a loading dyno is able to actively alter the load on the rollers it is able to change the rate of acceleration as the operator pleases. Realistic loads for the particular vehicle can be used or loads simulating driving up a hill can be used. This is easily controlled by the dyno operator.

D) Problem Diagnosis - This feature goes back to the ability to control load and do steady state tuning. A loading dyno is able to simulate road conditions in a safe environment while allowing the technician to monitor the car and it's engine. An inertia dyno is unable to accurately simulate all but a few road conditions making it much more difficult to diagnose problems.

[Dirty Harry]

You'd be amazed at number of times cars with "low" DD numbers have schooled way more powerful DynoJet numbers.


Julio's car pulls f'n hard. Good job Charlie!

[PUNISHER]

Dyno numbers dont mean shit, its just a tool for tuners to tune. I got 246whp on that dyno, and my mods are on my sig. I really dont care about numbers, like they say, if you want numbers go with a dynoJET... Only thing you should care after the tune is how the car feels to you.

[awdlancer]

Dyno numbers dont mean shit, its just a tool for tuners to tune. I got 246whp on that dyno, and my mods are on my sig. I really dont care about numbers, like they say, if you want numbers go with a dynoJET... Only thing you should care after the tune is how the car feels to you.

well said !!!
Hey Charlie can you post the baseline chart before you dialed in my mods if you have it laying around :)

[Mister]

After hours tuning! O0 O0

[pajarito61906]

all i know is that this car is fast cause i drove it before and after

[Evolutionized]

all you need is the butt dyno...

[kimletrim]

all you need is the butt dyno...


We already know what the power graph on that dyno will look like....


http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i107/1Il/Alexdyno141_001.jpg

[Charlie@MFQ]

Dyno numbers dont mean shit, its just a tool for tuners to tune. I got 246whp on that dyno, and my mods are on my sig. I really dont care about numbers, like they say, if you want numbers go with a dynoJET... Only thing you should care after the tune is how the car feels to you.


your car was tune by the lord. lol also get it right, it's not Dynojet but Dildojet ;)

[fuleinjection23]

all you need is the butt dyno...


We already know what the power graph on that dyno will look like....


http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i107/1Il/Alexdyno141_001.jpg


is that the offical butt dyno graph?

[wsmc27]

Ahh....4am tuning....gotta love it...have had to do a few of those myself :D

Except we don't have the cops called on us. U need to get into a 3 shift zone area Charlie!



...being next to a little airport can help too, huh? :coolsmiley:

O0 Nice work Charlie. Those old 8's are okay (no matter what some 9 owners might say)Â* :2funny:

[lvevo]

Op got ~18% increase over baseline, not bad.

[c_sautter]

Nice, when can I go for a ride?

[1GGEvo]

all you need is the butt dyno...


We already know what the power graph on that dyno will look like....


http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i107/1Il/Alexdyno141_001.jpg


now thats funny....bump it up for Charlie and MFQ, the man is dedicated!Â* Good luck to Charlie this weekend at time attack!

Â* Â*-Chris