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Massappeal
10-29-2008, 11:55 AM
HB Speed has been working on my car for sometime now, Jon tested out a reflash and here is my results for now.
Keep in mind no timing adjustments at all, only boost and fuel. Boost is set to 23psi
I get my exhaust in the next few weeks (If T1R ever comes out) and go back for more tuning with timing adjustments as well.
I can tell you this Flash is the ****! The car pulls all the way to redline now and I know why alot of people refer to Jon as Jesus in the tuning world now
This Dyno reads a stock Evo X at 254 whp, If you can't read dyno sheets I ended up with 321whp and 320lbs tq with a smooth powerband.
Mods are
Perrin FMIC
Nisei 1 piece UICP
AEM intake
Everything else bone stock (motor wise)
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f229/axion7606/evoXreflashtest.png

Massappeal
10-29-2008, 11:56 AM
some pics of the fun! :twisted:
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f229/axion7606/EvoXRearDyno.jpg
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f229/axion7606/HBspeedEvoxondyno.jpg
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f229/axion7606/EvoXDynomite.jpg
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f229/axion7606/EvoXfrontDyno.jpg

ASIXMRSE
10-29-2008, 11:59 AM
nice numbers!! congrats.... a DP,TP CB will get this thing really movin.

Kisada
10-29-2008, 12:03 PM
wow ... damn i gotta get my X tuned soon

nice results!

Massappeal
10-29-2008, 12:07 PM
Yes I highly recommend a tune! best mod! Ill post more results soon when exhaust comes out and the other parts of the tuning capabilities become available ;)

boostinbyyou
10-29-2008, 12:19 PM
fukn X's are puttin down some great numbers with almost no mods........ :tickedoff:

MitsEvoIX
10-29-2008, 12:22 PM
how much is the tune?

1WkdEvo
10-29-2008, 12:36 PM
So you were at 295/300 before he even flashed it with an intake/ic/uicp then

NRG
10-29-2008, 12:45 PM
Wow, I have full 3" turbo back with hi flo, intake, upper and lower ICP and I made 338/327. So that means your car could be a factory beast.

ASIXMRSE
10-29-2008, 12:47 PM
^^ did you get tuned at the same tuner? same weather? if not, then its not really a factory freak, just different conditions and variables

GilbertFlores
10-29-2008, 12:49 PM
^^ did you get tuned at the same tuner? same weather? if not, then its not really a factory freak, just different conditions and variables
+1 to that lol.

gotta take into account every variable before calling something a factory freak

either way, congrats on the tune and any information on the cost of tuning...

Massappeal
10-29-2008, 12:51 PM
So you were at 295/300 before he even flashed it with an intake/ic/uicp then

YES! With Factory 2nd flash from Mitsu


how much is the tune?

$400

ASIXMRSE
10-29-2008, 12:53 PM
how much for the Re-tune?

Either way man, definately seems like money well spent! O0

GilbertFlores
10-29-2008, 12:54 PM
shit 400 for the tune...

way worth it......other shops are charging like 700+ for a X to be tuned...

Massappeal
10-29-2008, 12:57 PM
shit 400 for the tune...

way worth it......other shops are charging like 700+ for a X to be tuned...

Yes well worth it! thats because other shops are using ecutek with liscence fees! ;)

1WkdEvo
10-29-2008, 12:57 PM
Unless he is a test mule for Ecuflash, which is possible considering the winky

NRG
10-29-2008, 01:02 PM
^^ did you get tuned at the same tuner? same weather? if not, then its not really a factory freak, just different conditions and variables


No, but I am comparing it in a way where a STOCK X got about the same power as the dyno I used...

silvrEVOIXn818
10-29-2008, 01:03 PM
Congrats!

sidewaysevo
10-29-2008, 01:13 PM
Nice, hope your car doesn't blow up.

gsrIXevo
10-29-2008, 01:13 PM
HB Speed is a stand up shop... a buddy of mine got his STi done over there. Â*And they even feed us.. and I just showed up to watch. Â*Jon their in house tuner... is one hell of a kool guy. Â*He will try to do what is best for your car while keepin' it safe. you cant ask for more than that....

unchi
10-29-2008, 01:17 PM
Nice, hope your car doesn't blow up.
Not gonna happen, this car is very conservative

Massappeal
10-29-2008, 01:28 PM
More results soon! MXP test pipe, downpipe and retune going down again tonite feel free to stop by and check things out! =)

Massappeal
10-29-2008, 01:29 PM
Nice, hope your car doesn't blow up.

Jon knows what he' doing! Like I said they don't nickname him Jesus for no reason! ;)

MitsEvoIX
10-29-2008, 01:40 PM
where is HB Speed at?

1WkdEvo
10-29-2008, 01:42 PM
Let me guess, Huntington Beach

ASIXMRSE
10-29-2008, 01:43 PM
^^lol!!!

1WkdEvo
10-29-2008, 01:44 PM
And is "Unchi" Jon aka Jesus?

xxxAce21xxx
10-29-2008, 01:47 PM
^^ did you get tuned at the same tuner? Â*same weather? Â*if not, then Â*its not really a factory freak, just different conditions and variables
+1 to that lol.

gotta take into account every variable before calling something a factory freak

either way, congrats on the tune and any information on the cost of tuning...


haha beleive me i know what factory Freak is ;)

414AWHP / 404 TQ

PUNISHER
10-29-2008, 01:50 PM
Dude, sick ass numbers... i put down 323whp and 317tq on that dyno, and i have cams!!.Â* Those X's are making serious power with little mods.

Oh yea, Jon is a pretty good tuner, i've been running his tunes for about a year with no problems whatsoever. Highly recommended.

j_nizzle
10-29-2008, 02:03 PM
haha beleive me i know what factory Freak is ;)

414AWHP / 404 TQ


how is your car a factory freak? TUNED 9 on E85...nothing but tuning/mods/fuel choice. nothing mitsu did imo.

unchi
10-29-2008, 02:04 PM
Let me guess, Huntington Beach
Fountain valley actually but close enough!

Massappeal
10-29-2008, 02:05 PM
Let me guess, Huntington Beach

Fountain valley but same thing! :2funny: google or Pm me for addy

GilbertFlores
10-29-2008, 02:05 PM
haha beleive me i know what factory Freak is ;)

414AWHP / 404 TQ


how is your car a factory freak? TUNED 9 on E85...nothing but tuning/mods/fuel choice. nothing mitsu did imo.
because the average evo 9 without cams is putting down 390's on e85 with the same mods he has...

he was considered a factory freak when he matched numbers with a 9 with cams from the same tuner, same dyno, same everything.

j_nizzle
10-29-2008, 02:07 PM
haha beleive me i know what factory Freak is ;)

414AWHP / 404 TQ


how is your car a factory freak? TUNED 9 on E85...nothing but tuning/mods/fuel choice. nothing mitsu did imo.
because the average evo 9 without cams is putting down 390's on e85 with the same mods he has...

he was considered a factory freak when he matched numbers with a 9 with cams from the same tuner, same dyno, same everything.


i was under the impression that "factory" freak meant that one's car would be put on a dyno "bone stock" and make more power than an identical car on the same dyno given the same variables (fuel choice, temps, tuner, tuning process, etc.).

1WkdEvo
10-29-2008, 02:17 PM
But what boost Ace. You never answered that question. We could say that James smoked your lowly numbers with his VIII turbo if we are not factoring boost into the equation

vial8or
10-29-2008, 02:20 PM
yay another thread turned 180 degrees for no reason!!!

unchi
10-29-2008, 02:22 PM
yay another thread turned 180 degrees for no reason!!!
:werd: :gheyfight:

GilbertFlores
10-29-2008, 02:23 PM
i think he was at 29psi..

i just hope that MR tranny keeps up with the power his car is making....

GilbertFlores
10-29-2008, 02:23 PM
o and bump for the OP and his X lol

Massappeal
10-29-2008, 02:30 PM
O I did add one other mod that night! I almost forgot to mention! Ralliart tailights those could be good for a couple extra whp! :2funny:

GilbertFlores
10-29-2008, 02:31 PM
O I did add one other mod that night! I almost forgot to mention! Ralliart tailights those could be good for a couple extra whp! :2funny:
at least 50 per light. lol

boostinbyyou
10-29-2008, 02:37 PM
those lights are nice......

1WkdEvo
10-29-2008, 02:39 PM
So, is Unchi Jon :-)

unchi
10-29-2008, 03:21 PM
So, is Unchi Jon :-)
:? :roll: :angel:

1WkdEvo
10-29-2008, 03:22 PM
Lol. Nice work then. Options are a good thing

unchi
10-30-2008, 12:29 AM
more power tonight! O0

http://www.hbspeed.com/dynos/evoXcatless.PNG

and Vs my stock car

http://www.hbspeed.com/dynos/evoXtested.PNG

GilbertFlores
10-30-2008, 12:33 AM
very nice...

looks like 337whp/328wtq ish...

what are the current mods at the moment..

perrin fmic, aem intake, and catless??

GilbertFlores
10-30-2008, 12:36 AM
damn....just noticed that you removed the cat and gained like 20whp at about 6500

and a steady 8+/- wtq through out 3500-4300rpm...nice.

Massappeal
10-30-2008, 01:01 AM
very nice...

looks like 337whp/328wtq ish...

what are the current mods at the moment..

Its actually 334whp and 329 tq now. We added a downpipe (non 02 housing) and test pipe! car feels better then before now especially in the upper rpms!




perrin fmic, aem intake, and catless??

GilbertFlores
10-30-2008, 01:03 AM
very nice...

looks like 337whp/328wtq ish...

what are the current mods at the moment..

Its actually 334whp and 329 tq now. We added a downpipe (non 02 housing) and test pipe! car feels better then before now especially in the upper rpms!




perrin fmic, aem intake, and catless??

pretty close lol.

great numbers over there man...ill tell my friend with a X and see what he wants to do.

Massappeal
10-30-2008, 09:34 AM
yeah I think most the power came from the test pipe. need to get a 02 housing downpipe and see the difference along with a catback

1WkdEvo
10-30-2008, 09:34 AM
Yeah, its definitely holding better up top now

gsrIXevo
11-03-2008, 08:56 PM
damn... now that is why they call your car a X and not a IX.5.......lol

evoxkrazy
11-04-2008, 09:03 PM
wow! those are some nice #'s ,something i could look forward to with my X

HB Speed
12-11-2008, 04:13 PM
WOOO look who is a new vendor!!

Massappeal
12-11-2008, 07:11 PM
WOOO look who is a new vendor!!

woot woot!

Sean penn
12-11-2008, 07:30 PM
HB Speed has been working on my car for sometime now, Jon tested out a reflash and here is my results for now.
Keep in mind no timing adjustments at all, only boost and fuel. Boost is set to 23psi
I get my exhaust in the next few weeks (If T1R ever comes out) and go back for more tuning with timing adjustments as well.
I can tell you this Flash is the ****! The car pulls all the way to redline now and I know why alot of people refer to Jon as Jesus in the tuning world now
This Dyno reads a stock Evo X at 254 whp, If you can't read dyno sheets I ended up with 321whp and 320lbs tq with a smooth powerband.
Mods are
Perrin FMIC
Nisei 1 piece UICP
AEM intake
Everything else bone stock (motor wise)
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f229/axion7606/evoXreflashtest.png

He is definetly not jesus when it comes to tuning. I here a lot of negative shit about them from a lot of guys with subies. Scott grey is the god of the tuning world.

1WkdEvo
12-11-2008, 07:34 PM
^lol. Everyone has their favorites and every tuner has someone who will say bad stuff about their tunes

Sean penn
12-11-2008, 07:46 PM
Hey sean, I am only stating the remarks that I here from my friends that own subaru's.

1WkdEvo
12-11-2008, 07:49 PM
No worries man, I wasn't getting bent :-) Its always nice to have as much info as possible about a vendor

Sean penn
12-11-2008, 07:50 PM
My man!!!

gsrIXevo
12-11-2008, 07:57 PM
^^ + a hundred grand...... lol

"stop causing stuff on other ppls threads......lol"


OP:
"No two cars are alike... that goes for scubies and evos.... those are some good numbers no matter how you look at it. Evo X's are some very mod happy go-karts......lol"

HB Speed
12-11-2008, 07:58 PM
He is definetly not jesus when it comes to tuning. I here a lot of negative shit about them from a lot of guys with subies. Scott grey is the god of the tuning world.


Really? thats funny because we are the most recommended shop in Socal for Subaru tuning. We are also Redline time attack Co- grand champions..... i guess our tuning REALLY sucks.....

Massappeal
12-11-2008, 07:59 PM
Thats weird cause I came from the Subie world and Id say most/A SHITload of socal sube guys go and still go to HBspeed to get tuned. Not to mention countless positive reviews and personal friends that got tuned by him. Im not being Bias either, Ive been in this car game for over 10 years!I've bought parts/tuned and many other shops as well. But like stated earlier someone will always have a negative thing to say NO matter what shop it is.
and I can say Jon=Jesus FTH!

gsrIXevo
12-11-2008, 09:02 PM
Before we get into this messy who is better than the rest.... I want to repost something:




HB Speed is a stand up shop... a buddy of mine got his STi done over there. And they even feed us.. and I just showed up to watch. Jon their in house tuner... is one hell of a kool guy. He will try to do what is best for your car while keepin' it safe. you cant ask for more than that....



Funny thing is.. you could take the same quote and replace HB Speed with RRE and you can swap Jon for Scott.... And both statements would true.... the only reason RRE and HB Speed have been doing well is because they are putting strong numbers on the dyno with long lasting results. I am a RRE 'fan boy' and i respect scott to the fullest... but i have seen Jon in action on an evo IX and i was impressed. 'you cant go wrong with either shop... both shops race and have race proven methods...."

Massappeal
12-11-2008, 09:06 PM
Before we get into this messy who is better than the rest.... I want to repost something:




HB Speed is a stand up shop... a buddy of mine got his STi done over there.Â* And they even feed us.. and I just showed up to watch.Â* Jon their in house tuner... is one hell of a kool guy.Â* He will try to do what is best for your car while keepin' it safe. you cant ask for more than that....



Funny thing is.. you could take the same quote and replace HB Speed with RRE and you can swap Jon for Scott.... And both statements would true.... the only reason RRE and HB Speed have been doing well is because they are putting strong numbersÂ* on the dyno with long lasting results. I am a RRE 'fan boy' and i respect scott to the fullest... but i have seen Jon in action on an evo IX and i was impressed.Â* 'you cant go wrong with either shop... both shops race and have race proven methods...."

Exactly! Both shops are great! We're lucky enough to have 2 GREAT shops in our area! Some people have to drive to other states to find a decent tuner! not to mention one shop is a Cobb pro tuner and the other is a liscenced Ecutek tuner which gives us SoCal people much more options for tuning O0

HB Speed
12-11-2008, 09:09 PM
PS: I love RRE, AND their Steel donuts !!!


HI MIKE!!

HB Speed
12-14-2008, 02:13 AM
So, my question is, if harman was still tuning, would that reply been different? It's easy to take the cheap shots when they are down and out...

stay classy san diego...
You are right b.
I edited my post.
I have my opinions on harmans tuning, i dont hide them.
remember i used to tune there.

strat10
01-22-2009, 06:02 PM
Bump it up for Jon!

His shop installed some Cobb springs and Jon Tuned my X and poped in the pill. Started with about 270 and left with 325HP. The car is SMOOOOTH with no flakey crap at higher RPM's and the freaking idle isnt bouncing any more.

AEM CAI other than that....stock.

Oh yeah, he stayed till 9:00 to get it right

Thanks Jon! Its like a new Car!

mjparagatos
01-27-2009, 11:04 PM
yo wats up ronnie

its mick, i met you at hb speed with my buddy steven when we came to bring his car in
im the one with the silver evo x

ur car is makin powerr bro
cant wait to get mine tuned by hb speed!!

HardRideCafe
01-28-2009, 08:57 AM
Which tune is getting better results as far as Hp an Tq goes, AP or ecuflash?