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gt40
05-14-2009, 08:23 PM
I thought I would share lessons learned from making a bunch of carbon stuff.Â* Â*

You can make almost anything this way from a catch can, intake, airbox, ic piping etc.Â* It is within the realm of most people's ability if they have a bandsaw or make a hot wire foam cutter for super cheap.

Here are some stuff I have made:

http://www.socalevo.net/gallery/albums/uploads/gt40/normal_catchcan2sitetube.jpg

http://www.socalevo.net/gallery/albums/uploads/gt40/normal_ccai2.jpg

http://www.socalevo.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10080/cold%20air3.jpg

http://www.socalevo.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10080/normal_cold%20air1.jpg

Anyway, my work has gotten better with each piece and it is really not very much money to make one so here goes...

Tools and materials needed:

1. Blue foam this stuff is really dense and dissolves on contact with acetone.Â* That is the requirement.Â* It is basically really high density styrofoam.Â* I got a 4 foot by 8 foot by 4 inch "slab" for 60 bucks.Â* Â*Enough to make like 40 intakes.Â* you can get it a home depot in smaller thicknesses or foam stores.Â*

2. Acetone to melt it out later

3. Carbon fiber sleeving.Â* I get mine from:Â* Â*http://www.solarcomposites.com/composites/carbon%20fiber%20sleeves.html

This stuff is cool because it is a flexible and adjustable tube that is made out of carbon fiber or kevlar and it is kinda like a sock that you cut the toe off of- slide it over the form and you have a seemless carbon tube when your done.

These guys have a lot of good info on how to work the the stuff on their site.

4.Â* band saw or hot wire foam cutter.Â* I have a bandsaw but hot wire thingy is easy to make:Â*
http://www.hhhh.org/~joeboy/resources/hotwire_foam_cutter/hotwire_foam_cutter.html

You need some way to cut the blue foam.Â* It cuts like butter and super clean with a diy hot wire cutter.Â* You just need to stretch a wire out and electrify it with a battery or something to heat it enough to melt foam on contact.Â* Don't blame me if you fry yourself :P

5. Resin to harden the carbon- solter composites has aÂ* bunch of good resins that are good to 500 degrees and some that are good to a lot higher if your nice to them.Â* It's on the site but you can use any reasonably heat resistant resin.Â* I have built pieces out of the stuff from home depot that worked great.

6.Â* Sand paper to shape the foam.Â* you glue cut pieces of foam basically and then sand it to finish shaping it.

7. Latex mode making stuff.Â* Find this at plastic stores like Hastings Plastic in santa monica.Â* you coat the foam with this stuff so it leaves a smooth surface on the inside of your part you are making.

8. Giant heat shrink tubing- again from solter composites at the link above.Â* allows you "vaccuum" pack your part when it is drying like they do for fancy pro pieces.Â*

Procedure:

1.Â* Cut your blue foam to the shape and size you want to make the part out of.Â* If your making a curved intake, cut a cylinder and then cut it into wedges and then glue them together with spray adhesive.Â* This stuff cuts like butter so you should be able to cut and sand a curved intake in under an hour:


Here is a single piece cut:Â* http://www.mccomsey.net/lostfoam/foam-wedge.jpg

Here are some pieces glued together: http://www.mccomsey.net/lostfoam/glued-wedges.jpg

Here is the glue I used: http://www.mccomsey.net/lostfoam/sprayglue.jpg

finished shape before sanding: http://www.mccomsey.net/lostfoam/foam-intake-shape.jpg

After you shape the piece to your liking, you sand it with 80 grit and then 120 grit to get a smooth surface on the foam.Â* Then you coat it with this latex stuff so the resin won't stick to it later and you have a smooth surface inside of your tube:

http://www.mccomsey.net/lostfoam/latex-mold-stuff.jpg

Here are some shots of the carbon sleeving:

http://www.mccomsey.net/lostfoam/carbon-sleeving-1.jpg

http://www.mccomsey.net/lostfoam/carbon-sleeving-2.jpg

What I do is spray some glue on the latex covered foam and slide the sleeving on it and work it so it follows the foam shape and there are no wrinkles or gaps.Â* Don't use much spray glue just enough to tack it in place.

After you get the shape covered with dry carbon fiber, you got to wet it out with resin.Â* Follow the directions on the resin and mix it properly.Â* Use some gloves and work it into the carbon so the whole thing is "wetted" out really well.Â* You can use a resin roller if you want but you need to wet the carbon through and through.Â* Don't use some 5 minute resin that sets up too quick or you may not be able to get the whole piece all coated.

Here is the trick I learned and then suggested to solter: use giant heat shrink tubing to squeeze out the excess resin and leave a nice finished surface:

http://www.solarcomposites.com/composites/carbon%20fiber%20sleeves.html#shrink

Slide the heat shrink tubing over the form or vacuum bag it if you have that stuff and let it cure.Â* Â*

Cut off the heat shrink and pour aceytone on the blue foam and it will melt away to nothing leaving a finished piece.Â* Trim the ends and finish sand and clear coat and your done.

evobros
05-14-2009, 08:28 PM
that's badass bro and good write up

Skiracer
05-14-2009, 08:37 PM
Here's my first attempt using the above method with GT40 instructing/supervising me. I made a CF cup :2funny: Came out decent on my first attempt.

http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee20/skiracer123/Misc%20Car%20stuff/117-1762_IMG.jpg

huyissuperman
05-15-2009, 03:24 PM
pratice makes perfect O0

06evoMR
05-15-2009, 03:37 PM
cool, i think imma make me a couple of carbon fiber bongs for that bling when i smoke with my jdm buddies

evol8
10-28-2009, 05:28 PM
how much would ya charge to carbon wrap some things???