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Archiebabes
06-26-2009, 08:15 AM
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NRG
06-26-2009, 09:44 AM
Are you using Aquamist?

Archiebabes
06-26-2009, 09:45 AM
AEM Meth Kit 1 Gallon Tank

NRG
06-26-2009, 09:56 AM
Nice TQ and wonder how much would you put down if you had 50/50 mix instead of 100...

antics22
06-26-2009, 11:00 AM
holy crap at 30psi..... good numbers. Hope its "safe power"!

christoph562
06-26-2009, 11:03 AM
nice numbers O0

evogeo
06-26-2009, 11:04 AM
nice!!! i had no idea hbspeed also tunes w/ecutek....

do you have aftermarket fuel pump or injectors?

Archiebabes
06-26-2009, 11:23 AM
holy crap at 30psi..... good numbers. Hope its "safe power"!


Dont' worry Ant, Jon says it's safe power. Just don't run out of Meth. LOL

Archiebabes
06-26-2009, 11:23 AM
nice!!! i had no idea hbspeed also tunes w/ecutek....

do you have aftermarket fuel pump or injectors?


Stock Fuel Pump and stock Injectors

silvrEVOIXn818
06-26-2009, 11:29 AM
impressive! Â* congrats. Â* O0 Â*HB Speed is doin it big! Â* O0 WOW stock fuel components... What were the IDC's?

HB Speed
06-26-2009, 11:29 AM
nice!!! i had no idea hbspeed also tunes w/ecutek....

do you have aftermarket fuel pump or injectors?

Its actually Open source/ECUflash not ecutek O0

sxe_davexxx
06-26-2009, 11:32 AM
That is some mad torque. Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â*
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30psi must be nice. Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â*

O0

HB Speed
06-26-2009, 11:37 AM
impressive! Â* congrats. Â* O0 Â*HB Speed is doin it big! Â* O0 WOW stock fuel components... What were the IDC's?
87% max

Archiebabes
06-26-2009, 11:53 AM
Hey Jon,

They left my Engine Cover and Power Wire Cover.

Can you please ship it out?

I emailed you my address.

Thanks again for the retune.

Wimploki
06-26-2009, 12:12 PM
Great numbers!

With Jon's tuning abilities, it's always money well spent.

+1 for HB Speed.

Wimploki
06-26-2009, 12:18 PM
AEM Meth Kit 1 Gallon Tank


How long does 1 gallon of Meth usually last? I have no exp. w/ this type of setup and now thinking about getting it.

Archiebabes
06-26-2009, 12:21 PM
AEM Meth Kit 1 Gallon Tank


How long does 1 gallon of Meth usually last? I have no exp. w/ this type of setup and now thinking about getting it.


It depends on how you run your car. It can last for a day or even weeks.

It also depends on your meth controller settings.

seph09
06-26-2009, 03:41 PM
can you give us a ratio? like a full tank of gas to a gallon of meth?

where can you get meth refills?

1WkdEvo
06-26-2009, 05:20 PM
When I ran meth on my IX 7 qurts, which is almost twice this amount, lasted for 4-5 tanks depending on how often I went WOT.

Its very convenient and meth is a great low cost "race fuel" type option that I would highly recommend if you hate having to drive all over God's green earth in search of E85. You also do not need to worry about upgrading stock fuel system near as much.

Congrats on the numbers. Those are insane numbers for a stock turbo with that kind of spool. I am certain that you will be plenty happy with that for quite some time

FUEL
06-26-2009, 05:56 PM
30 PSI !!! That's a lot of boost! Good thing your tuner knows his stuff and doesn't blow up cars! So where can you get meth from? I've never seen it for sale anywhere in the OC.

gengo
06-26-2009, 06:33 PM
Is your clutch holding that monster torque surge?

antics22
06-26-2009, 06:35 PM
^ that was going to be my next question...

Archiebabes
06-26-2009, 06:37 PM
I buy my 5 gallon of meth here in Sun Valley, a shop called Manning Fuel.

The clutch is still holding. I still can't believe how hard the car pulls on this kind of torque levels.

seph09
06-26-2009, 06:51 PM
do you think I can run meth without a biggie IC?

I'm planning to do cams first then IC but seeing this, makes me wanna do this before IC or cams...

any advice?

MODS: RRE TBE, drop in w/ intake pipe, IC piping...

debotheevo
06-26-2009, 06:56 PM
jesus christ.... 1+ o0

HB Speed
06-26-2009, 07:17 PM
do you think I can run meth without a biggie IC?

I'm planning to do cams first then IC but seeing this, makes me wanna do this before IC or cams...

any advice?

MODS: RRE TBE, drop in w/ intake pipe, IC piping...

Yes you can run meth without the bigger intercooler. O0

Archiebabes
06-26-2009, 07:29 PM
do you think I can run meth without a biggie IC?

I'm planning to do cams first then IC but seeing this, makes me wanna do this before IC or cams...

any advice?

MODS: RRE TBE, drop in w/ intake pipe, IC piping...


Upgrade your stock IC, ditch the panel filter and get an intake like HKS or AEM.

Then install the Meth Injection.

Just copy my mods on the first post, and you are good to go.

seph09
06-26-2009, 08:24 PM
thanks Archie your my IDOL!!!

335eater
06-26-2009, 08:41 PM
30 PSI !!! That's a lot of boost! Good thing your tuner knows his stuff and doesn't blow up cars! So where can you get meth from? I've never seen it for sale anywhere in the OC.

theres a shop in laguna hills that sells it

HB Speed
06-26-2009, 08:51 PM
30 PSI !!! That's a lot of boost! Good thing your tuner knows his stuff and doesn't blow up cars! So where can you get meth from? I've never seen it for sale anywhere in the OC.

theres a shop in laguna hills that sells it
Magnolia @ adams
Ace auto parts in HB !!

FUEL
06-26-2009, 09:31 PM
so it's sold in "containers" .... for some reason I thought it was "at the pump" somewhere :D

HB Speed
06-26-2009, 09:38 PM
so it's sold in "containers" .... for some reason I thought it was "at the pump" somewhere :D
If only......... id be running M85 right now !

FUEL
06-26-2009, 10:02 PM
how much is it "per" gallon, liter or however they sell it?

1WkdEvo
06-27-2009, 01:32 AM
Its about $6/gallon

335eater
06-27-2009, 07:43 AM
Its about $6/gallon

wish id known that sooner, i was getting hosed by dynamic

FUEL
06-27-2009, 08:18 AM
$6 per gallon and seems to last a few tanks of gas...sounds like a bargin HP Mod.

1WkdEvo
06-27-2009, 09:21 AM
It is. I did a write up a while ago about the cost/feasibility of meth as compared to E85 and meth holds it own, while being much easier to live with as a result of availability

FUEL
06-27-2009, 09:35 AM
It is.Â* I did a write up a while ago about the cost/feasibility of meth as compared to E85 and meth holds it own, while being much easier to live with as a result of availability


Since I will be Evo-less for awhile I'm changing the mod path on Mr Fuel's Evo. He has an EMS so I do believe it has functions to control it... he's said I can track his car :twisted:

xxblazexx
06-27-2009, 03:40 PM
wtf someone deleted my post

1WkdEvo
06-27-2009, 05:39 PM
It is. I did a write up a while ago about the cost/feasibility of meth as compared to E85 and meth holds it own, while being much easier to live with as a result of availability


Since I will be Evo-less for awhile I'm changing the mod path on Mr Fuel's Evo. He has an EMS so I do believe it has functions to control it... he's said I can track his car :twisted:


Oh my!

Mike can hook you up with a meth kit and Scot or Mike can handle the failsafes through the EMS and/or the Zeitronix to ensure that it is plenty safe

FUEL
06-27-2009, 06:18 PM
It is. I did a write up a while ago about the cost/feasibility of meth as compared to E85 and meth holds it own, while being much easier to live with as a result of availability


Since I will be Evo-less for awhile I'm changing the mod path on Mr Fuel's Evo. He has an EMS so I do believe it has functions to control it... he's said I can track his car :twisted:


Oh my!

Mike can hook you up with a meth kit and Scot or Mike can handle the failsafes through the EMS and/or the Zeitronix to ensure that it is plenty safe


How much do the kits run for? We have a Zeitronix in the car now with all the sensors. I'm probably going to switch the car over to the AEM true boost, it's running an MBC now. The car has potential to be a beast...he just needs to let me take over the reigns on the MODs and stop playing with JDM parts.

1WkdEvo
06-27-2009, 06:22 PM
Here is the link to the AEM one they sell:

http://www.roadraceengineering.com/4g/parts/aem-alkykit.htm

Instead of paying the extra $100 for the 5 gallon container, I would piece together a container from this store for less and that fits into a stealth space in the trunk somewhere:

https://www.usplastic.com/catalog/basket.asp?&clickid=navbar

FUEL
06-27-2009, 06:27 PM
Thanks O0

1WkdEvo
06-27-2009, 06:34 PM
Anytime :)

cy08x
06-27-2009, 06:40 PM
I want these #'s too!!! hey jon you tuned and installed my cams on my PB X a few months ago, and was wondering if i get an AEM meth kit how much for the install and the retune? Â* thanks

HB Speed
06-27-2009, 06:41 PM
I want these #'s too!!! hey jon you tuned and installed my cams on my PB X a few months ago, and was wondering if i get an AEM meth kit how much for the install and the retune? Â* thanks

PM Me and ill set it up for ya

HB Speed
06-27-2009, 06:42 PM
double post :D

storm_trooper
06-29-2009, 08:05 PM
if you dont want to run 100% meth, you can just use windshield wiper fluid. its like a 60/40 mix ;)

cy08x
06-29-2009, 08:38 PM
I want these #'s too!!! hey jon you tuned and installed my cams on my PB X a few months ago, and was wondering if i get an AEM meth kit how much for the install and the retune? thanks

PM Me and ill set it up for ya


PM'd ya

cy08x
07-01-2009, 12:10 PM
any cons for using Methanol?

335eater
07-01-2009, 07:39 PM
dont use the aem kit, that kit is junk!

Evolution Rob
07-03-2009, 02:14 PM
How safe is running meth on a daily driver? How much additional wear does it put on the engine?

1WkdEvo
07-03-2009, 10:46 PM
Several trains of thought on this, but my "opinion", having run meth is that if you have the apropriate failsafe(s) setup, it is the cheapest, easiest, and most effective way of running high boost on a DD

335eater
07-04-2009, 01:24 AM
+1

Looney Tuning
07-04-2009, 04:22 PM
dont use the aem kit, that kit is junk!

If I was ever to use meth on my Evo, I will only use an Aquamist kit with a 50/50 mix. I have seen the Aquamist in action and that thing is fantastic.

Check out the set-up in this thread post #9

http://www.socalevo.net/forum/index.php?topic=69396.0

peruevox
09-10-2009, 10:43 AM
HB speed can u guys pm me price aem meth kit install and tune after??

HB Speed
09-10-2009, 11:36 AM
HB speed can u guys pm me price aem meth kit install and tune after??

PM'd

STIH8TER
09-10-2009, 12:14 PM
Is Meth Inj. safe for the car?

HB Speed
09-10-2009, 12:56 PM
Is Meth Inj. safe for the car?

YES!

STIH8TER
09-10-2009, 01:28 PM
How does it work? I really never heard of this till I read this topic.

335eater
09-10-2009, 03:10 PM
many different ways, just set it up to run on duty cycle

Enjoitk
09-10-2009, 09:14 PM
how much of a difference would you see from running 100% water and 50/50 mix?

fusionofideas
12-06-2009, 12:50 AM
Has anyone set up the kit to run on the windshield washer tank. That seems like the best way to run it is to tap into the washer fluid tank if you are going to run the windshield fluid mixture. probably not a good idea if you are running pure methanol- that would be an expensive way to clean the windshield

fusionofideas
12-06-2009, 12:53 AM
Has anyone set up the kit to run on the windshield washer tank. That seems like the best way to run it is to tap into the washer fluid tank if you are going to run the windshield fluid mixture. probably not a good idea if you are running pure methanol- that would be an expensive way to clean the windshield.
Â* I think I am going to have Road Race Engineering set me up with the AEM meth kit running of the windshield washer tank

gengo
12-19-2009, 02:19 PM
Has anyone set up the kit to run on the windshield washer tank. That seems like the best way to run it is to tap into the washer fluid tank if you are going to run the windshield fluid mixture. probably not a good idea if you are running pure methanol- that would be an expensive way to clean the windshield.
Â* I think I am going to have Road Race Engineering set me up with the AEM meth kit running of the windshield washer tank


This is what I want to do as well. I have not seen anyone run it this way yet (on this or other forums). I need stealth!

gofaster87
12-22-2009, 07:59 AM
Why not run a 3 gallon poly fuel cell in the trunk and use a good pump such as one from aqua mist. Works great and its uber stealth.

gengo
12-22-2009, 11:02 AM
Why not run a 3 gallon poly fuel cell in the trunk and use a good pump such as one from aqua mist. Works great and its uber strealth.


Where does the poly fuel cell go? I don't think I have room for a 3 gallon container unless I remove the spare.

My only problem with the Aquamist Kit is that it costs MORE to buy (+$300) and MORE to install! Local shop quoted me $800 on install vs. $400 for AEM. That is a $700 dollar difference!

gofaster87
12-23-2009, 09:40 AM
I haven't kept up on the latest meth kits but I can vouch for anything aquamist. Their products are top notch but you are right, very pricey. I had my cell mounted on the side of the trunk with a cover around it. Ill have to see if I can dig up a pic of it.