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Looney Tuning
12-06-2009, 01:39 AM
I have not posted much lately since most of the cars that I have been tuning are similar to ones that I have posted about, making the posts redundant. But this one is different. This is the first Looney Tuned 2010 Evo X and it does have a slight difference in the stock rom than the 2008 Evo X, so I thought it is proper to post about it. This Evo X had the following mods:

AEM Intake
Nisei 1PC Upper IC Pipe
Test Pipe

The target AFR, timing, and boost in the 2010 rom is the same as those in the factory reflash 2008 rom. The main difference between the two is that Mitsu decided to enable lean spool in the 2010 rom. Once lean spool is enabled the logged wideband AFRs become leaner even though both the 2008 and the 2010 roms use the same target fuel maps. The thing that I do not understand is why didn’t Mitsu enable lean spool on the 2008 Evo X. Did they forget?

Check out the AFR on these cars vs. the AFR on this 2010 Evo X. Note how the AFR dips into the 9:1 ratio on the 2008 Evo X while the 2010 Evo X has a semi-decent stock AFR.

http://www.sr20deracing.com/looneytuning/Evo/Roy/afr_08_10.gif

You might object that the second car has more mods and that is leaning things out more. So here is another 2008 Evo X with more mods vs. the 2010 Evo X. You will note the same rich 9:1 AFR on the 2008 Evo X vs. the 11:1 to 10.4:1 AFR on the 2010 Evo X.

http://www.sr20deracing.com/looneytuning/Evo/Roy/afr_08_10-2.gif

The stock boost between the 2008 Evo X and the 2010 Evo X did not change much. Here is the before and after boost profile on this 2010 Evo X:

http://www.sr20deracing.com/looneytuning/Evo/Roy/psi_b4_after.gif

The stock boost was typical of an Evo X with an AEM intake/UICP/TP. Boost peaked at 4000 hitting 23.30 psi. Boost then tapered all the way to 14.90 psi by redline. The tuned boost was much better, hitting peak 500 rpm sooner at 25.96 psi and tapering to only 18.94 psi by redline. The tuned boost was 2.66 psi higher than stock at peak and 4.04 psi higher than stock by redline.

Since enabling lean spool already leaned out the AFR, I did not have to change the AFR much. It was a far cry from high target AFRs that a tuner has to enter in a 2008 fuel map. Here is the before and after AFR on this car:

http://www.sr20deracing.com/looneytuning/Evo/Roy/afr_b4_after.gif

I simply leaned out the AFR to get it solidly into the mid 11:1 ratio and then tapered it t6o 11:1 by redline. Above 7000, I dropped it to 10.6:1 AFR just to be safe.

The stock timing on 2010 Evo X was the same as the timing on the 2008 Evo X. This was a real problem for moded and untuned cars. Mitsu leaned out the AFR with lean spool enabled, kept the timing the same and then the owner adds more power mods. The result was a LOT of knock, at least on this Evo X. Evoscan registered up to 14 counts of knock. On all three base line logs there were more than 3 counts of knock from 5000 rpm all the way to redline. I will have to log more 2010 Evo Xs to see if this is isolated to this car or not.

Anyway, here is the before and after ignition timing advance on this Evo X:

http://www.sr20deracing.com/looneytuning/Evo/Roy/tim_b4_after.gif

Timing was slightly lower than stock at peak boost and about 8-9* lower than stock by redline. In the mid-range timing was 2-6* lower than stock.

The car responded nicely to its new tune. Here is the road dyno power chart.

http://www.sr20deracing.com/looneytuning/Evo/Roy/dyno_b4_after.gif

The power gains were across the rpm range, no one area lost power. The maximum gains is where you drop a perpendicular line from the higher power trace to the lower one. The peak gain is the increase from stock peak trace to the tuned peak trace.

Peak power gain: +37 hpÂ*
Peak Torque gain: +34 ft-lb

Max power gain: +42 hp
Max Torque gain: +39 ft-lb

All the car needs now is a hi-flowing exhaust to free up more hp and torqueÂ* O0

alan678
12-06-2009, 01:44 AM
That's crazy about the lean spool. People will probably get a bit better MPG with the new untuned 2010s now that lean spool is enabled.

big boss
12-06-2009, 02:22 AM
Great job Naji O0 congrats on your gains bro

casperdomo
12-06-2009, 03:35 AM
Nice job Naji......very good gains to the O.P.

fusionchicken
12-06-2009, 03:57 AM
naji is the man O0

EvoJoe
12-06-2009, 11:59 AM
Nice job Naji.

melachu
12-06-2009, 12:13 PM
very nice naji!

G20
12-06-2009, 12:39 PM
very good info. thanks Naji.

MRQ06
12-06-2009, 02:31 PM
Nice!! Good gains as always. Looking forward to see Naji again!!

MinusPrevious
12-06-2009, 08:14 PM
Another fine, detailed tune by the Looney Tune Tech Team.......Definitely more up side gains once the owner adds a few more pwr mods.......Peace

antox18
12-06-2009, 08:17 PM
good numbers. ill probably hit u up for a tune , im just waiting to break in my car i got all my power mods sitting at home then ill hit u up. i have heard good things from a couple of good buddy's of mine. O0

Gear Grinder
12-06-2009, 08:40 PM
Great job Naji. I'm sure the owner is really happy. I know Ugly is very pleased with his WRX. I'm glad you are continuing your write ups. It's a real benefit to SoCalEvo. Otherwise all we talk about is drinking and gay sex. lol. Anyway, I demand you get 300whp on my Ralliart :laugh:

Looney Tuning
12-07-2009, 12:00 AM
Great job Naji. I'm sure the owner is really happy. I know Ugly is very pleased with his WRX. I'm glad you are continuing your write ups. It's a real benefit to SoCalEvo. Otherwise all we talk about is drinking and gay sex. lol. Anyway, I demand you get 300whp on my Ralliart :laugh:


I almost fell off my chair laughing about the gay sex...so true on the LB meet thread...LOL. I loved tuning Ugly's WRX. I will post about it next. I just did a post about an e85 tune.

http://www.socalevo.net/forum/index.php?topic=89170.new

I will give your ralliart a killer tune. We will tune it on the pill to maximize the power out of the turbo. Hopefully we can hit 300 hp.

christoph562
12-10-2009, 01:20 PM
Hey Naji, anyway an 2008 Evo X can hold boost longer instead of tapering down? My car has an almost 10 psi drop just like this car.

Thanks O0

Malicust
12-10-2009, 10:00 PM
Hey Naji, anyway an 2008 Evo X can hold boost longer instead of tapering down? My car has an almost 10 psi drop just like this car.

Thanks O0
turn your wga (ugh not certain turn is the word im looking for... but it deals with your wga)

Looney Tuning
12-11-2009, 04:15 PM
Hey Naji, anyway an 2008 Evo X can hold boost longer instead of tapering down? My car has an almost 10 psi drop just like this car.

Thanks O0


This car tapers by 7 psi. The stock turbo is rated at 40 lb/min. Using the stock solenoid w/o a pill and with a TBE, TP and intake I have logged the turbo by redline at 38-39 lb/min. Therefore, there is little point in pushing higher boost on the stock turbo because it will be out of its effeciency range. 19-20 psi by redline is plenty on the stock turbo. Boost is not the only way to make power. Instead of running more boost and blowing hot air, it is better to lean out the AFR and/or advance the timing and make power that way.

christoph562
12-12-2009, 02:41 PM
Cool, thanks i was just trying to find out a different way to make more power in the top end. O0

TeKiZeRo
12-13-2009, 07:20 PM
Great work as always! :angel:

Was this Roy's car?

EvoJoe
12-13-2009, 07:52 PM
Hey Naji, anyway an 2008 Evo X can hold boost longer instead of tapering down? My car has an almost 10 psi drop just like this car.

Thanks O0


This car tapers by 7 psi. The stock turbo is rated at 40 lb/min. Using the stock solenoid w/o a pill and with a TBE, TP and intake I have logged the turbo by redline at 38-39 lb/min. Therefore, there is little point in pushing higher boost on the stock turbo because it will be out of its effeciency range. 19-20 psi by redline is plenty on the stock turbo. Boost is not the only way to make power. Instead of running more boost and blowing hot air, it is better to lean out the AFR and/or advance the timing and make power that way.


Very well saidÂ*O0.

RedSER13
12-14-2009, 12:17 PM
nice numbers! since you tune on the street, i supposed the power gains are measured at the wheels?

Larrykeen
12-14-2009, 04:51 PM
Nice, O0.

kautiongsr
12-20-2009, 10:51 PM
Great job Naji. I'm sure the owner is really happy. I know Ugly is very pleased with his WRX. I'm glad you are continuing your write ups. It's a real benefit to SoCalEvo. Otherwise all we talk about is drinking and gay sex. lol. Anyway, I demand you get 300whp on my Ralliart :laugh:


I almost fell off my chair laughing about the gay sex...so true on the LB meet thread...LOL. I loved tuning Ugly's WRX. I will post about it next. I just did a post about an e85 tune.

http://www.socalevo.net/forum/index.php?topic=89170.new

I will give your ralliart a killer tune. We will tune it on the pill to maximize the power out of the turbo. Hopefully we can hit 300 hp.


GREAT post naji.. i think danny needs noz.....hahhahahah

soontobe
12-22-2009, 05:40 PM
Second time i have read this and it still confuses me, but its gettin a little more easier to comprehend. Good work man I cant wait to mod my 10 and get it tuned.