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ericD
09-25-2010, 10:56 PM
ok, so i am an absolute newb at tuning and i have tried to install tephra v7 multiple times/ways. i cant seem to understand "exactly" how to do it. i simply want to be able to view my maps and enable the p0300-be gone code, and map switching since im already on e85. and then eventually tune ;)
so, heres how it goes:
i have the latest versions of both evoscan and ecuflash
i open the xml in openecu for ROM 96530006 ( i have an 03 evo 8)
then ive: 1) deleted everything in the ROM and replaced it with the ROM provided from tephra v7 (because the tephra mod states that i simply need to copy the entire ROM and paste it into the ecuflash directory)

2) copied all of the necessary info provided in the tephra mod and pasted it towards the bottom of the the ecuflash directory ROM for 96530006 just before

none of these have worked for me, when i try to open a ROM in ecuflash it still states that it cant view the image. i keep hearing the word "immobilizer code" not sure what it means or how to make use of it. all i am asking here is "HOW TO INSTALL TEPHRA MOD", and yes, ive searched.... alot... any advice would help. thank you all for your time.
-eric

silvrEVOIXn818
09-26-2010, 01:09 AM
so youre saying youve made the .xml changes, and when u open up EcuFlash, then try to open the rom, its saying unable to read rom image?Â* If this is the case, your NOT doing something right w/ the .xmls...
Are you making your changes to your .xml, thru the directory, where the program is located?Â*
i.e.Â* computer/program files/EcuFlash/etc.Â*
Ive found that its better to create your own .xml.Â* I know its tedious, but you learn more going thru everything yourself!Â* All definitions can be found on evom.Â* What .xml's are you dropping in the folder?Â* I know, last time I checked (been a while) but they were working on an .xml file that doesnt NEED to "include" or "refer to" the rom/base .xmlÂ*
so open up your 9653 .xml and see if it "includes" the base .xml located at the top...Â*

ok since Im home sick and bored, heres what u need!Â* ALL U NEED is this one .xml!Â* Looks like your gonna need to take out your 9653/base .xml out (save dont discard) and just use the "tephra mod 9653" .xml givin in the zip file.Â* Then open up EcuFlash, and load the .bin file, then copy/paste all pertinent info, including immob. and immob. hex!Â*

Note: you can NOT open up "tephra roms", unless u have the correct tephra rom .xml. in the folder. And if u only have the tephra .xml, youll be unable to open a "stock rom" w/ out the correct rom .xml's in the folder!
heres the zip file...

HMatt
09-26-2010, 03:56 AM
Ok, let me clarify for him. His car already has v7 in the car. Naji did that. He is just looking to go in to it so he can modify some settings in the tephra options.

He just needs to dl the correct .xml, and drop it into the folder for the .xml's in ecuflash. Right?

AlphaKennyBody
09-26-2010, 05:09 AM
^

Some tuners actually reconfig the files to their own tables and making their own xml so you cannnot see certain tables when pulling the map from the ECU.

Honestly, I would contact your tuner (Naji) and have him do it so there isn't any mistake to what is going on. With the OP stating that he was a NEWB.... I would highly recommend not tampering at all with the system and let someone experience deal with it and have them walk you through with with your own Laptop if you wanted to do it yourself.

But in plain english... Yes you need to have the correct xml to read from the ECU. But again a good tuner will adjust and make changes that to the file that you can JUST grab of EvoM and modify it to their likings =)

Correct me if I'm wrong Tuners.... O0

ericD
09-26-2010, 09:47 AM
^^^ ok silvrevo. So what ur tellibg me is that i am to delete all other xml files in the ecu directory (prog files/ecuflash/romdata/evo... Etc) except for the 9653? And then once the rest are deleted i simply perform the xml ROM mod part?

So to clarify. When i go through the directory to ecuflash there should only be 1 xml file in there(9653)?
(and yes the best bet is to go see my tuner but im stuborn and curios ;) hahaha

biggiesacks
09-26-2010, 12:47 PM
First i would recommend installing a fresh copy of ECUflash into a different directory then the one you have. Label it V7 or something like that. All that should be needed from that point is to go onto Evom, download the ROM and XML file from the Tephra V7 thread. Then place that XML into your Rom folder within OpenECU\EcuFlash\rommetadata\mitsubishi\evo directory and you should be good to go. Make sure you run the .exe from the new ecuflash you just installed instead of the old one. You do not need to delete any of the base rom files within your Rom directory.

biggiesacks
09-26-2010, 12:51 PM
second you need to actually upload the ROm from your ECU to Your PC have you been able to do this? Another thing. The 9653 is the universal rom for evo 8's. There is also a 9417 rom that Tephra put together that solved my throttle hang issues. You might want to look into switching over to this at some point.

ericD
09-26-2010, 01:51 PM
Ok. Found my problem. Definition file. Where do i find that? Ive done more reading and have found that i cannot use ecuflash properly without it? So my question now is, where do i find it and what do i do with it?

biggiesacks
09-26-2010, 04:01 PM
The definition file is called TephraMOD-96530706-v7.xml . This is the .xml file i was referring too in my earlier post. You get this .xml file with the Tephramod ROM file that is available via download from The ecuflash forum on evolutionm.net. Just look for the thread Titled Tephramod V7. The download link will be on the first page.

ericD
09-26-2010, 04:04 PM
Awesome! Ok so i discovered my problem. I was simply using the wrong definition file. So i switched from 9653 to another and im good! I can now view/edit my rom. Thnx for all your help guys. Im sure im not the only person this has happened to so this may prove to b usefull for many others.

HMatt
09-26-2010, 09:18 PM
^nah... I think most everyone else actually read the instructions and followed them before they attempted it.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

biggiesacks
09-27-2010, 02:44 PM
Even if they do they probably wont know how to use the search function lol. In all seriousness not everyone learns the same way, and for some its hard to intake directions forum style and get everything right the first time.

Drifting Away
09-27-2010, 02:51 PM
eric, becarefull in ecuflash :) and before you make changes backup your rom...

ericD
09-27-2010, 02:56 PM
Yes. Will do. One thing i was wondering was. If my car has been tuned, when i pull my ROM from my ecu, am i looking at the "tuned/altered ROM"? And also i cant even seem to view the ignition/timing maps as well as high octane or low octane maps. And ive looked on advanced and developer settings. Still nothin. Do i need a mod in order to view those specific maps?

AlphaKennyBody
09-27-2010, 03:04 PM
Yes. Will do. One thing i was wondering was. If my car has been tuned, when i pull my ROM from my ecu, am i looking at the "tuned/altered ROM"? And also i cant even seem to view the ignition/timing maps as well as high octane or low octane maps. And ive looked on advanced and developer settings. Still nothin. Do i need a mod in order to view those specific maps?


Like i said in my first post before i got ignored.... lol

Naji or any good tuner doesn't just run off the self, i can download my xml files here kinda deal...... My Tuner modified the xml by adding his own tables or rearranging tables to where if you just use the tephra xml file.... your not gonna see it. If that makes sense.. Reason why tuners do that so people that are newbs or keyboard happy dont adjust or fuck with the maps and then down the road you blow your shit and you say...

"I'm Tuned by *Insert Tuner Name Here*"

2nd, If you READ from ECU yes you are pulling up the CURRENT map that's on the car. If your car was flashed/tuned and you know it was then that's the map that's on it. Once you pull it fromt he car that's the tuned map on your laptop.

I can promise you if you pulled my map you wouldn't see more than HALF of the stuff you think you'll see due to a modded xml file based on my tuner. Can't download it anywhere.

Drifting Away
09-27-2010, 03:08 PM
Yes you pulled the rom the car is currently runing , and check the deffinitions you might need to change them to see those; as stated some tunners like to change that so others dont copy base maps and such. Or you coul not be runing the same version mod, if you where tuned on v7 and tried to load it viewing as v5 i think they wouldnt show because the maps are bigger. Im not an expert so im just taking a whack at it of course.

AlphaKennyBody
09-27-2010, 03:09 PM
^ Correct.

Drifting Away
09-27-2010, 03:15 PM
Honestly what are you trying to change? If your car is tuned and working perfectly i would follow this advice , "If it ant broke don't fix it".

AlphaKennyBody
09-27-2010, 03:20 PM
He's trying to Disable the P300 check... Which in all honestly, i said from the beginning for him to just take it to his Tuner...

ericD
09-27-2010, 03:24 PM
True. But i want to learn. Im still in the shit ton of reading phase then log a shit ton phase and finally, well ill have to learn sometime down the road... And. Most importantly, i was tuned with 2 boost leaks(unknown at the time dont try to get on my tuners ass u cunts lol) that got progressively worse. So tuned at 28 +\- 1.5psi, with small boost leaks then once the leaks are corrected i more than likely will overboost even with the ecu's ability to compensate... So i would like to log my peak boost and make the necessary corrections. Understand?

ericD
09-27-2010, 03:26 PM
^i dont want to completly rely on my tuner, thats what ur failing to understand. If i was going to get a complete tune. Yes. Go see a pro. But for sumthing like cel code eliminating... Ide rather do it myself.

RisingphoenIx
09-27-2010, 03:32 PM
location? I'll set it up for you but I wouldn't recommend messing with something you are not familiar with. Â*I always tell pepole to master stock ROMs and then move on. Â*The tephra XML give you access to a lot of extra options that could cause a lot of problems. Â*Also understand there a many tuners that have customized their xmls to gain access to other tables so trying to copy stuff with out undertanding what and why is a BIG no no. Â*you really should be using 94170715 for a USDM evo 8 but that will cause you a lot of head aches since the ROMs are completely different.

AlphaKennyBody
09-27-2010, 03:32 PM
Very Will understood however, your issue is nothing like a simple or drop the boost level and that's it... If had a leak that'll effect the WHOLE TUNE. So honestly, get a retune. I mean if you want to learn, your best bet was to learn on the stock map.

But Hey Good Luck to you and hope you get all your shit situated O0

ericD
09-27-2010, 04:18 PM
I see. Well dam. I really was hoping it would b as simple as reducing peak boost slightly. O well. I guess i will have to consult a specialist and maybe take a few notes for future reference ;) i appreciate all of your help and suggestions. Thank you.

biggiesacks
09-27-2010, 05:22 PM
There is a miss understanding here about how the XML files relate to the roms. The tuners are not changing the location of tables within the rom. They are adding additional definitions into their XML to gain access to different tables then an off the shelf XML might. So to clarify, the location of the BIG maps in the Rom are not being changed by the tuner and as such any Tephramod xml should have the definition for those tables. The only thing i can see a tuner changing might be MUT requests. Other then that the ROM is the same. Developers like Mr.Fred and Tephra are actually going through the code in the roms and changing things around.