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jamesinger
06-16-2011, 10:15 PM
This section never gets used, so I am going to use it.
I am assuming most people that can see this have been on the forum for 2+ years.
What do you guys think about the MASSIVE amount of knock off crap people are selling on this site?
Personally, I think it is a problem.
People sit and whine about HKS leaving the US, ARC going bankrupt and etc... but at the same time, no one calls people out for rocking Rotas or running a Voltex "style" bumper.
The legit companies put down $$$$$$$$ for R&D and to sponsor and promote motorsports only to have some bullshit company rips off their stuff to produce crap that looks the same but is crap.
I think that all the knock off crap is the blight of our hobby and I think that no one should be allowed to sell knock off crap on this site.
However, I do not own the site and I am not a mod, so this is just my opinion.
Am I a fascist?
Am I overreacting?
I am seriously interested in what you guys think.

jamesinger
06-16-2011, 10:22 PM
I just want to add that I feel it is double bullshit that vendors are selling knock offs through this site too. At first it was mainly Rexpeed but more vendors have popped up in the last few months that are upping the knock off game. This site seems to promote the sales of knock offs in that sense, which I find problematic.

Blk Mivo IX
06-16-2011, 10:25 PM
I just dont think its very fair that the site wouldnt allow anything knock to be sold.
it sucks that all those companies are going bankrupt but that's just how the world is.
people do not always want to front that much money for the certain if they can get the same looking part for cheaper.
but thats just me. i mean, its not like socalevo benefits from people selling things here. It just gets it more traffic.

osolokes213
06-16-2011, 11:04 PM
I'm anti-replica....I admit I used to have rep stuff before but felt emberrassed to say I did....I can proudly say I rock all real jdm parts here....

jamesinger
06-17-2011, 04:28 PM
this article has a lot of what I am talking about in it as far as evidence goes:
http://speedhunters.com/archive/2011/06/17/news-gt-gt-cyber-evo-prepares-for-wtac.aspx

For me, I am not dissing people if they ever rocked replicas but personally, I just rock OEM over replica stuff, even if the OEM stuff is wack. That is just me though.

osolokes213
06-17-2011, 10:49 PM
bump for more opinions on this...

...also, since we're the so-called "veterans", i hope you don't mind me going a bit off topic, but what do you guys think about the "trolls" here...am I the only bothered by that?...i made a thread about it and got totally dissed by the re-tards lol

jamesinger
06-18-2011, 09:02 PM
bump for more opinions on this...

...also, since we're the so-called "veterans", i hope you don't mind me going a bit off topic, but what do you guys think about the "trolls" here...am I the only bothered by that?...i made a thread about it and got totally dissed by the re-tards lol


I am never feeling people who troll boards.
Every forum is the same.
It starts out being all tech and sharing info.
Then it gets popular and the trolls and scammers and general fuckheads come en masse.
After a while there are only pictures of dude's girlfriends asses and discussions on weed.

OT from the OT.

I hate "make offer" threads.
WHAT THE FUCK DO YOU WANT for the stuff that is for sale!?
I don't want to dick around.
IF you are selling it and I want it and you are selling it at a price I will pay, I'll pay but I am not going to dick around with making offers and making highest offers. Fuck your for sale thread.
If I were a MOD, selling stuff with NO price (or pics for that matter) = blocked from selling and temporary BAN!!
I would be a fascist mod!

osolokes213
06-18-2011, 09:09 PM
lol...i agree 100%...to keep it a bit on the original topic, why dont you think these JDM companies dont sue those who are copying their items? is it cuz their product is only patented in Japan, and not worldwide? I think they should expand and have some sort of manufacturing done in the US to lower cost, and keep replicas from being produced.

Blk Mivo IX
06-19-2011, 10:36 AM
^good question.

Mister
06-20-2011, 04:58 PM
Fuck the newbie trolls, thats all I have to say about that.

Regarding replicas, I have a love/hate relationship with them. Example: I'm on my 3rd Do Luck replica lip, and about to order the 4th one. If these were all real Do Luck lips, I would be out $2400, and would need to spend another $800 to get the 4th one. I am happy spending $300-350 per lip when they will get busted up anyways.

Basically, certain parts, I wont mind buying rep, but for the important parts like Wheels, Actual Aero Parts, Engine Parts, I stray away from knock-offs.

osolokes213
06-20-2011, 04:59 PM
thats a good point about the lips....

Blk Mivo IX
06-21-2011, 12:20 PM
its the little things that dont matter that much for replica.
anyways, i think when people post up things for sale, they should ALWAYS include pictures.

HMatt
06-21-2011, 02:54 PM
Rexspeed does make alot of replica stuff and I'm against most of it... BUT for some of the stuff, they offer it in carbon fiber, and if the original manufacturer doesn't make it that way, and you want it, well, you don't have any other option. Not to mention, some of the replicas are actually made BETTER than the originals. To me, if it's better and cheaper, then I'm going with the replica. Sorry.

I really hear what Mister is saying, if it's a part that is going to get destroyed anyway, why buy an expensive one? Take my damn front bumper. That damn INGS+1 front scrapes EVERYWHERE because it sticks out so far and it low to the ground and I'm at STOCK ride height. This will be my 3rd time fixing it! If I hadn't found a cheap ARP front to throw on for daily driving, I was just going to buy a replica so I wouldn't care about fucking up my legit one.

Now that's for cosmetic stuff... for actual drivetrain and safety components... You MUST be out of your damn mind to buy a replica!

Note: I can safely say that the only replicas that are on my car are my black-out headlights and red tails.

DTunedEvoX
06-22-2011, 12:26 PM
2 Different subjects here gentleman ..

For the subject at hand - Simple - I do not believe the site should allow replica items to be sold. BUT ... With that said ...

As far as people putting replica items on they're car. Everyone has they're opinion- thats fine. But unless someone is paying for my car payment- I believe I should have every right to put what ever ricer/Rota/Replica CF piece I want on my car. If I get flamed for it- ok you/they have they're opinion an thats cool.

Like MISTER - I wouldnt mind (as much) cracking my fake Rota Replica wheel while DDing on a pothole opposed to say scratch the fak out of my $3000.00 volks ... *shrug* ... The cost to replace some of the stuff could get pretty costly and a lot of people in Evos are fortunate to even own them.

While I'm not sure we can find a happy medium to satisfy both sides of THIS debate - they both have valid points,pros, and cons...

chinoxmk22
06-22-2011, 02:16 PM
bump for more opinions on this...

...also, since we're the so-called "veterans", i hope you don't mind me going a bit off topic, but what do you guys think about the "trolls" here...am I the only bothered by that?...i made a thread about it and got totally dissed by the re-tards lol


lol... I Am the only 2010'er in this thread so far... But I agree with u. A lot of the posts are useful and helpful, but most is nonsense. I post bs but at least in the proper place. Some fool threatened me because I pointed out that his thread was made on the wrong section.lol

obstacle1
06-23-2011, 05:04 PM
It will be tough to monitor the fakes to authentic on this site. Unless this site creates some type of Ebay type of system, Where we could rate and leave feedback on the knock off sellers. But yea I don't buy knock offs, which is why I'm still stock. Authentic is expensive and I rather rock stock than down grade to a replica product lol.

EvolutionXtacy
06-25-2011, 08:56 PM
there a few things replica i wouldn't mind having. front lips like every one states

as far as having replica rims, that can go either way, unless ur really dead set on the looks of ur car then okay. but rocking stock enkies and bbs aren't bad at all just add some spacers and yeah lol.

but as far as people selling it rather then vendors then i have a problem with that. cause Sellers like to describe the product there selling with PERFECTNESS when in person its just a really shitty product. and they counter with the oh yeah this and that blah blah.

i wouldn't mind buying stuff from rexpeed cause im not gonna spend almost 1-2grand for a doluck lip then crack the shit out of it. same thing for voltex parts lol.

as far as buying knock off engine parts, thats a huge no no for me. the grade of the material is worse etc..

osolokes213
06-28-2011, 05:45 PM
this is what happens with knock-offs

obstacle1
06-29-2011, 09:23 AM
Ouch^^^

jamesinger
06-29-2011, 11:55 AM
Damn to those BSSes.

I have to say, you guys have me sold on the lip argument.Â* I would rock a PU DL Lip if anyone has a line on one with perfect fit but When you get in to serious aero, wheels and engine stuff, you are asking for tears.

Here is an interesting discussion from Ben@Bulletproof:

http://www.bespokeventures.com/blog/2011/05/06/an-important-side-discussion-counterfeits-vs-knockoffs/

I am saving for legit stuff and rocking stock until then.

some day:
http://www.dentsport.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/cyber-evo-1.jpg

obstacle1
06-29-2011, 01:26 PM
I agree with you on rocking stock than down grading to knock offs. O0

chinoxmk22
06-29-2011, 06:30 PM
http://forums.clubrsx.com/images/smilies/yeahthat.gif

I'd rock stock BBS wheels over cheap-0 wheels....

jamesinger
06-30-2011, 11:38 PM
http://youtu.be/BJeFB6SRslk

obstacle1
07-01-2011, 09:01 AM
http://youtu.be/BJeFB6SRslk
I remember seeing this somewhere, so true.

jamesinger
07-01-2011, 11:52 PM
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_NRSDCBt4i-U/TT3bWIaua6I/AAAAAAAAF6o/GvaLNKESPVk/stopthecopy.jpg

LakaiorDie
07-02-2011, 02:42 AM
why spend the money on a evo if your gonna rock fake shit.

and with that.. Rip off lips seem to be okay because

i had one and truthfully fuck paying for something im going to destroy within 2 months. lol

jamesinger
07-02-2011, 06:35 AM
why spend the money on a evo if your gonna rock fake shit.

and with that.. Rip off lips seem to be okay because

i had one and truthfully fuck paying for something im going to destroy within 2 months. lol


Legit Do Luck lip on my VIII = 3 months... 1 month zip tied with washer made tabs... :(
That thing caused me headaches all day every day!!

jamesinger
07-02-2011, 06:37 AM
http://prolifik1.files.wordpress.com/2011/06/blueorange_sticker.jpg

obstacle1
07-02-2011, 10:30 PM
http://prolifik1.files.wordpress.com/2011/06/blueorange_sticker.jpg
Can I haz one?

osolokes213
07-03-2011, 09:25 AM
^^^me too

...look what i saw yesterday...i wonder if these copying companies have no shame....the "BBS" logo is just a sticker on top of another centercap....can't believe companies have the nerve to do such a thing....copying the design is one thing, but putting the original design logo and try and pass it off as legit is unbelievable...

EvolutionXtacy
07-03-2011, 08:27 PM
^^^me too

...look what i saw yesterday...i wonder if these copying companies have no shame....the "BBS" logo is just a sticker on top of another centercap....can't believe companies have the nerve to do such a thing....copying the design is one thing, but putting the original design logo and try and pass it off as legit is unbelievable...


i would sue for that

HMatt
07-04-2011, 09:16 AM
^Werd. At least rotas don't claim to be legit.

jamesinger
07-04-2011, 09:42 PM
good stuff on here:
http://officialjdmegoonlinestore.bigcartel.com/
http://cache0.bigcartel.com/product_images/38588800/IMG_0523.JPG

obstacle1
07-05-2011, 09:28 AM
Thanks, I dig the license plate frames.

osolokes213
07-05-2011, 09:39 AM
^^^+1

chinoxmk22
07-05-2011, 11:34 PM
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c157/BDZ06T1/Misc/altezzasrgay.gif

jamesinger
07-06-2011, 02:23 AM
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c157/BDZ06T1/Misc/altezzasrgay.gif


LOL!!

chinoxmk22
07-06-2011, 06:31 AM
http://forums.clubrsx.com/images/smilies/rotfl.gif

osolokes213
08-02-2011, 08:36 AM
even the world's morst extraordinary man hates knockoffs...had to revive the thread...

chinoxmk22
08-02-2011, 08:48 AM
http://streetfx.com.au/store/images/detailed/jdm_as_f.jpg