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    HOW TO: Change ALL DRIVELINE FLUIDS

    Changing your fluid is easy- took me less than 10 minutes

    1. Â*Jack up the front of the car and put a jack stand under it.

    2. Â*Get a 17mm and 24mm socket and a catch pail handy under the car.

    3. Â*Undo the fill plug first (17mm) in order to avoid glugging (don't forget the washer!!!).

    4. Â*Undo the drain plug (24mm) second and drain all the fluid out. make sure to position the waste pail accordingly.

    A NOTE THE 6 SPEED TRANSMISSION USES TWO 10mm ALLEN SOCKETS FOR DRAIN AND FILL.

    5. Â*Screw the drain plug in (don't forget the washer!!!) and get a funnel with a long flexible spout (4 bucks from pep boys) and stick in the side of the fill hole.

    if you use just the funnel with flex you'll likely have to remove your intake in order to fill from above. if you get some 3/8" rubber hose (about 18" should do) then you can seal off the fill hole (no leaking while filling) AND you don't have to remove the intake!

    6. Â*Pour new fluid in until it starts to come out of the drain hole (It is sideways) or around 3 quarts. YOU SHOULD ALWAYS FILL WITH YOUR CAR AT A PERFECTLY FLAT OR A SLIGHT POSITIVE INCLINE (front two wheels off the ground) this overfills the tranny as apposed to underfilling it and keeps things MUCH happier!!! this way it'll take 3 bottles of fluid and there's not guessing if you had too much spill out.

    7. Â*Put back fill plug. plugs should only be hand tight, torque specs are good, but don't hamfist them on or you'll be sorry!

    DONE!

    this is what your fill plug should not look like (dirty)



    this is what it should look like (clean)



    admittedly these pics aren't helpful.

    drain



    fill



    these are better:





    This was really easy and I am kicking myself for not doing it more often after seeing the metal shards on the plug. Â*I used bg synchroshift after getting some info from RRE and robi.

    GET 4 QUARTS.

    BOLD IS TRINYDEX SPEAKING

    here's the SIX SPEED TRANNY PICS


    DRAIN


    FILL
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    Re: Changing tranny fluid- OUCH!

    please read this before asking any questions about driveline fluids.

    http://www.socalevo.net/index.php?op...&topic=25953.0

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    Re: HOW TO: Change tranny fluid and Transfer Case Fluid

    TRANSFER CASE drain and fill.

    Locate the appropriate fill and drain plugs. The ones for the transfer case are located closer towards the center of the car, behind the exhaust manifold. The fill plugs will always be located higher than the drain plugs.

    Here is a pic showing the drain and fill holes:

    transfer case drain:



    transfer case fill:



    the fill hole is a bit above the downpipe.

    1. Open the fill plug first and clean the plug, be sure to remove both the plug as well as the metal washer. When I removed my transfer case fill plug, fluid ran from the fill hole so be prepared.

    2. Put the oil catch pan underneath the drain plug and slowly undo the drain plug making sure that you also remove the metal washer. As the fluid drains, you may have to move the catch pan to prevent oil from leaking to the ground. drains real fast, only .6 quarts.

    3. Clean the drain plug (you will find lots of tiny metal bits attached to the magnetic portion of the transfer case drain plug).

    4. Once the stream of fluid has ceased, put the drain plug back. Be sure to remember to put the metal washer back on as well. If you have a torque wrench all the plugs should be tightened to 23 ft.lb.

    5. Now, take the gear oil pump and run the hose into the fill hole. it's nice to have a hose long enough so you can sit the bottle on the ground and pump. but that just means more fluid that you're gonna have to pump back into the bottle when you're finished.

    ALWAYS FILL YOUR TRANSFER CASE WITH THE CAR AT A PERFECTLY FLAT OR SLIGHT ANGLE SO YOU'RE OVER FILLING IT AND NOT UNDER FILLING IT!!! ALSO NOTE!!!

    6. Pump the correct fluid into the diff. just keep pomping until fluid runs from the fill hole. it should take about .6 quarts.Â*

    7. Replace the fill plug. Be sure to remember the metal washer.



    this is the rear diff

    1. Open the fill plug first and clean the plug, be sure to remove both the plug as well as the metal washer. When I removed my rear diff fill plug, fluid ran from the fill hole so be prepared.

    2. Put the oil catch pan underneath the drain plug and slowly undo the drain plug making sure that you also remove the metal washer. As the fluid drains, you may have to move the catch pan to prevent oil from leaking to the ground. drains real fast, only .6 quarts.

    3. Clean the drain plug (you will find lots of tiny metal bits attached to the magnetic portion of the transfer case drain plug).

    4. Once the stream of fluid has ceased, put the drain plug back. Be sure to remember to put the metal washer back on as well. If you have a torque wrench all the plugs should be tightened to 23 ft.lb.

    5. Now, take the gear oil pump and run the hose into the fill hole. it's nice to have a hose long enough so you can sit the bottle on the ground and pump. but that just means more fluid that you're gonna have to pump back into the bottle when you're finished.

    ALWAYS FILL YOUR REAR DIFF WITH THE CAR AT A PERFECTLY FLAT OR NEGATIVE ANGLE SO YOU'RE OVER FILLING IT AND NOT UNDER FILLING IT!!! ALSO NOTE!!! clutch type differentials require a certain amount of friction to operate without chatter, you must use friction modifyer for fluids that don't already have it mixed in. that stuff stinks like fish too, so just get the stuff that already has it mixed in.

    6. Pump the correct fluid into the diff. just keep pomping until fluid runs from the fill hole. it should take about .6 quarts.

    7. Replace the fill plug. Be sure to remember the metal washer.

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    Re: HOW TO: Change ALL DRIVELINE FLUIDS

    due to some possible misunderstanding and liability issues it's proper for me to note that overfilling the transmission can lead to transmission seal rupture. the notes to overfill the transmission are not intended for you to keep filling until everything spews out while you're at an incline!!!

    it is meant so that you can assuredly fill the the transmission up to the specified amount of fluid in the manual. it is important to take note of what type of position your car is in when you fill. underfilling is bad. basically do not ever try to fit more than 3 quarts of fluid into the transmission, that is bad. between the specified amount of fluid and 3 quarts should keep things comfortable and happy.

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    Re: HOW TO: Change ALL DRIVELINE FLUIDS

    hey guys, i was checking the service manual right now, and this is what i came up with for "rear axle oil change"
    the rear diff drain bolt should be torqued to 47ft lbs, and the fill bolt should be at 37 ft lbs

    the xfer case and tranny both are 23ft lbs

    can anyone explain why we're doing 23 for rear diff, or is it just an oversight?

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    Re: HOW TO: Change ALL DRIVELINE FLUIDS

    Thank YOU!!!
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    Re: HOW TO: Change ALL DRIVELINE FLUIDS

    I just did my rear diff today, real easy, did it at a negative angle, thanks TRINYDEX
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    Re: HOW TO: Change ALL DRIVELINE FLUIDS

    Can someone please post exactly which fluids i should buy. How many, and where i can purchase them at?
    <br /><br />Alex: Anyway, I was wondering if maybe I could crash here for a while. <br />Dante: Whoa, I don&#039;t know, man. I got a business to run. This is like my office as well as my home. Plus, the lion comes in a couple days. <br />Alex: You&#039;re getting a lion? <br />Dante: Yeah. <br />Alex: Why? <br />Dante: To protect my shit. <br />Alex: Never heard of a dog? <br />Dante: Dude, you can get past a dog. Nobody fucks with a lion. <br />Alex: Yeah, that&#039;s true.

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    Re: HOW TO: Change ALL DRIVELINE FLUIDS

    For trannies, Straight Redline MT-90 gives the best protection. For cars with cold shifting issues use a Redline MT-90/MTL mix. Start with Redline MT-90 and add progessively more Redline MTL till it shifts nice. You need to buy three quarts.

    For the transfer case use Redline Heavyweight Shockproof here in So Cal. You need to buy one quart.

    For the rear diff use the Redline 75/90 Gear Oil. Race cars use Shockproof with LSD additive. You need to buy one quart.

    Shockproof is not for the transmission.

    EVO 8/9 Fluid Capacities:

    Engine Oil (w/filter) 4.5 qts
    Manual Transmission 2.9 qts
    Transfer CaseÂ* .58 qt
    Rear Differential .58 qt
    Cooling System 7.4 qts

    Where to buy it? www.roadraceengineering.com in Santa Fe Springs, CA of course :-)


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    Re: HOW TO: Change ALL DRIVELINE FLUIDS

    awesome! Thank you!
    <br /><br />Alex: Anyway, I was wondering if maybe I could crash here for a while. <br />Dante: Whoa, I don&#039;t know, man. I got a business to run. This is like my office as well as my home. Plus, the lion comes in a couple days. <br />Alex: You&#039;re getting a lion? <br />Dante: Yeah. <br />Alex: Why? <br />Dante: To protect my shit. <br />Alex: Never heard of a dog? <br />Dante: Dude, you can get past a dog. Nobody fucks with a lion. <br />Alex: Yeah, that&#039;s true.

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    pretty sweeeet! thanks for the details.
    Just Wicked....

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    Re: HOW TO: Change ALL DRIVELINE FLUIDS

    What are the recommended Mileages for changing all this stuff anyway?
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    Re: HOW TO: Change ALL DRIVELINE FLUIDS

    Quote Originally Posted by HMatt
    What are the recommended Mileages for changing all this stuff anyway?
    After every track day!
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    Re: HOW TO: Change ALL DRIVELINE FLUIDS

    Lol, thanks...

    Now to be more specific.... For us daily driver folk, what are the recommended change intervals?

    My Haynes manual hasn't come in yet and i just cracked 30K, I know that's a milestone of maintenance for most cars.
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    Re: HOW TO: Change ALL DRIVELINE FLUIDS

    the manual that came with the car has all the recommended maintenance info...check your glove box

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    Re: HOW TO: Change ALL DRIVELINE FLUIDS

    Umm... If I had that, I wouldn't have asked.

    I know the little icon under my name says "Not So Newbie" but trust me, I am not a newb to vehicles. And I was going to order a new one to replace the one that wasn't in the car when I bought it, but I found a haynes manual from a dud online for like 5 bucks more. Why buy the shortened version when you can have the whole shabang for a little more?

    I've just got time to kill this weekend and it won't be comming in until next weekend, plus I think if you are going to have this thread up in the firstplace, it should include when to change them, as well as how to change them. I know on my old eclipse, I just would change everything everytime I changed the timing belt, I'm sure at least the tranny oil should be done more often than that in these cars, right?
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    Re: HOW TO: Change ALL DRIVELINE FLUIDS

    oil change every 5k but i go 3k.
    tcase and tranny 15k but i go 10-12k

    and at 30k ur supposed to do transfer oil, motor oil, tranny, coolant, and drive belts. :mitsu:

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    Re: HOW TO: Change ALL DRIVELINE FLUIDS

    Thanks one4. Glad someone didn't find it too difficult to post up the info.

    Guess I'll start getting all the oils together then.
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    Re: HOW TO: Change ALL DRIVELINE FLUIDS

    Quote Originally Posted by all stock
    hey guys, i was checking the service manual right now, and this is what i came up with for "rear axle oil change"
    the rear diff drain bolt should be torqued to 47ft lbs, and the fill bolt should be at 37 ft lbs

    the xfer case and tranny both are 23ft lbs

    can anyone explain why we're doing 23 for rear diff, or is it just an oversight?

    http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c2...orquespecs.jpg
    I noticed no one has answered this question? Are these the right torque specs?
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