ok ...im just trying to understand this.
2.0 with 8 turbo
2.3 with 9 turbo
from what it looks like, the stroked motor loses only 25tq at in the higher rpms to the standard 2l. look at 5.5k and then again at 7k. can you elaborate on why this is worthless?
Did you get yours dialed in yet? Any results?Originally Posted by gt40
I hardly call 3600 for full boost too much lag on a 35r. Plenty of people making 500 whp on pump gas with a 35r. Nobody said you need a monster turbo but a stocker is not a good match up with a 2.4. By the way a 2.4 isnt a stroker its a 2.4 block(non 4g63.)
Im hardly guessing, Ive seen plenty of these setups run and tuned and I have one myself. Im a little different in that Im going for balls out power 700whp+. Scot Gray has tuned many 35r/2.4 setups and this seems to be a perfect combo for street/drag and roadracing. Ask him yourself.Do you have any experience in this area or are you just guessing like most of the other people here?
I personaly have a 2.4 with a stg 3 head, my car made easy power all the way to 8k with a ATP3071, over 400whp on 91 octane using a mustang dyno....Oh and anyone who paid over 6k for a stroker block, was had.
Haha that would be the biggest waste of money. The super quick spool will be shit in comparison to how quick you run out of air.Oh come on. At least go with something bigger than a 16G on a 2.4
Yeah the GT35R rocks on the 2.4L unless you are doing AutoX or only do road racing on tight circuits and no street driving. The GT3076R with the 2.4L is perfect for those situations where you really really need quick response, but for most street setups you want something bigger like the GT35R.
Just my 2 cents.
if im spending a fee of 5400.00+ core for a 2.4l(around 6k) then you bet your ass i will go with a larger turbo.. what knower , sam and i are saying.. its a waste of money doing a stroker kit or a 2.4l on the stock turbo.. in order to get the most out of the set up , a larger turbo should be consider (depending on the application, whether is drag racing or road racing) the choice of the turbo should be base on that... a 3076R is a great choice, all around power... a gt35 like smogrunner has, its also a nice top end monster... but if you are into drag racing like sam or want absolutly a highway killer then a choice like a gt40 or gt42 would be your best bet.. different people will choose different set ups. but cutting shortcuts or staying with the stock unit and adding a stroker kit or a 2.4l wouldnt be use to its best...
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You can make more power with a stock engine and a turbo kit, than a built 2.4L and a stock turbo...
i know the 2.4 isnt a stroker. its from the 4g64 right? and holy crap ...its 5400+ for the 2.4, holy fk.
hmmm well i was debating the 2sides ...2.4/evo9 or 2.4/30r. its not like this is happening tomorrow so im just trying to figure it out.
correct, its a 4g64.. but doing a 2.4l isn't cheap. or even looking to do a 2.3l stroker kit..
since
Doing the 2.4l would be in the near 5500 range (including labor, gaskets and water pump)
for the stroker kit, this would be in the 4500.00 range (consider plenty of down time )
1. just the stroker kit it's 1900.00 (give and take) example Buschur , AMS , etc...
2. labor will be another 2k (which includes the removal of the motor and getting the motor prep in order to fit the stroker kit,
3. additional items that you will need can make things go up in the near 500.00
4. down time. to some of us, this car is our daily driver..
IMO you should max out your 2.0l before considering a stroker kit or a 4g64 (2.4l) by doing all the bolt ons + a nice turbo kit....
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yah i wasnt planning on just dropping my very stock evo off and say do the works. too much of a change at once.
ok you said both will run a good amount of change ...but when it boils down, is the 2.4 better overall compared to a 2.3? i 'assume' it is ...but what specifically would make it better?
a bit more displacement also less down time and you can keep your stock (OEM) block. since its a lot easier to find a 4g64 then trying to find a block off an evo...
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the down time isnt too bad considering the work they do RRS did an amazing job in about 2 weeks O0
sure no prob i should have my car tunned and broken in whithin a few weeks. Bevo you no very well the reson i did the 2.4 was cus my motor had to be taken out anyways. But right now im not regreting it at all i think it makes the car alot smother to drive less downshifting to pass cars on freewayscare to elaborate?cough elijah cough
hey senshi ...you think itd be possible to get just a quick ride in month or 2. (before you upgrade your turbo)
even scot has said it himself, for a lot less you can get a 2.0 l stock bottom end with a larger turbo to perform better then a 2.4l or strocked out 2.0 to a 2.3l ... with a stock turbo.. it seems to be a waste of money to do such expensive mod and not do a larger turbo (not necessary a gt35) but at least a 3076r ...1.Thats fine, he runs 100octane, 99% of the population considerate it race gas.you need to know thatJust as I figured, Another ignorant evom'er posting useless BS. You have the nerve to call my car a pos, please tell me thats not your evo in your sig with gold rims, Batmobile front bumper, looks pretty sticker though. :oops: For the future how about you post something that you actually have knowledge about.
BTW, pump gas in Cali is 91 octane, full pump gas boost is 20-21 psi, just a little commin sense for you Son.
1. sam doesnt run 91 octane, he only uses 100 octane or higher on his evo .. so to him running 100 is pump gas... (crazy old man)
2. sam has a 2.4l with a big turbo and has made well over 460whp on a conservative tune
3. if you look at his car, he has done a lot more then you think for a reason... not just bling bling.. but as much performance as you can on the car..
4. he has plenty of experience with evos as well with working on cars period, more years then you can imagine.
so by judging him with out knowing who sam is , would be ignorant...
2.I also have a 2.4 with a large turbo and have made 406whp on a Mustang with pump gas(91).
3.Looks like another tasteless done evo to me.
4.That would be hard to tell, judging from his childish over inflated remarks and claims. Its seems ignorance is bliss.....
Back on topic, I only said, you do not NEED a big turbo to utilize a stroker, even though I have one, the stock turbo would hang in there just as well as a 2.0 on pump gas, take that for what you want, different strokes for different folks....
its like doing head work and not adding larger valves or doing valvetrain at the same time...
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My question is where is a good place to get a GT3076R kit at a good price.(with no cheap megan racing parts in it)?
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Affordable RnR and the fitment is good.
If you're going to call Sam's reasonable statements stupid, you might want to try to formulate an argument that doesn't involve you calling him son and that uses a little better than half-ass grammar and spelling. I find it funny that you're not calling out Scot Gray and others for saying essentially the same thing Sam is saying.^^Just as I figured, Another ignorant evom'er posting useless BS. You have the nerve to call my car a pos, please tell me thats not your evo in your sig with gold rims, Batmobile front bumper, looks pretty sticker fast though. :oops: For the future how about you post something that you actually have knowledge about.
BTW, pump gas in Cali is 91 octane, full pump gas boost is 20-21 psi, just a little commin sense for you Son.
that statement doesn't sound right, fitment is good and rnr don't go together in the same sentence...
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What made you said that? They may have problems with installation and services in some cases but their stuffs fit just fine.
Their past problems have not just been with installation and services. Try doing some research on the DSM boards. Everyone has a history, and it may or may not haunt them.
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