ECU+ ???

[TrickedOutEVOVIII]

hey guyz...now im kinda tossing up the idea of maybe getting into one of these. ive been reading up on this unit and it looks damn good to me. all the features and programs that it comes with! it looks very exciting. not as complicated as a standalone but at the same times allows direct control of air/fuel and most importantly...TIMING!! the things that this unit monitors for you is out of this world. 127 data points as opposed to 12 or 16 is damn sexy too!! its also really practical to use this unit with a laptop or palm (which i have both). im trying to find any reason why i shouldnt get one of these!! besides the fact that a couple more hundred bucks and i can get myself a standalone. i know thats what everyone will say...but to answer your question...ive already got an AEM ems...im just researching all my options. thanx for looking and thanx for any contributions.

T

[kimletrim]

It will depend on what your goals are. If you want a lot more than 400whp using a much larger turbo than stock, than I would probably keep the standalone.

The ECU+ is great for its ease of use, ease of monitoring, and ease of tuning. I have it and am learning as I write. It's great because you can learn to tune yourself as it provides almost all the tools you need in a easy to read format.

[Terry S]

I know this is a rehash, but there's a very good article on EvoM about this. Its in the tuner review folder.

Terry S

[earlyapex]

I use the ECU+.

The logging is to die for. Logs knock too! Everything is visually done well and very easy to read.

The ability to alter fuel and timing is great. I love the device. Logging is way better then xede.

Remember the ECU+ is targeted for people graduating from the SAFC.

Knock compensation rocks. It has the ability to add fuel and subtract timing at whatever knock voltage you desire.

You can also move to a GM MAF no problem, etc etc etc. I highly recommend it.

[evolved]

who carries said Ecu+?
This might be an alternative I am interested in

[kimletrim]

machv motorsports

[Terry S]

I use the ECU+.

The logging is to die for. Logs knock too! Everything is visually done well and very easy to read.

The ability to alter fuel and timing is great. I love the device. Logging is way better then xede.

Remember the ECU+ is targeted for people graduating from the SAFC.

Knock compensation rocks. It has the ability to add fuel and subtract timing at whatever knock voltage you desire.

You can also move to a GM MAF no problem, etc etc etc. I highly recommend it.

I forget, does it control boost too? Oh and do they have a IX harness for it yet?

Terry S

[earlyapex]

I forget, does it control boost too? Oh and do they have a IX harness for it yet?

Terry S

It currently can log boost with a MAP sensor. Tom is working on boost control... soon!

No harness for IX yet but Tom is also working on that as well.

I think the most impressive thing about the ECU+ is that Tom is very very involved with feedback of the user community. He is a one-man company and is very passionate about the product.

more info at: http://www.ecuplus.com/

[AvengeDEvO]

I just found out about this product, and I would rather spend the money on this then on the SAFC. I have no idea on how to tune my car, and I would love to learn but not on my own. Does anyone know of a shop that can help me out with the tuning part?

[Terry S]

I forget, does it control boost too? Oh and do they have a IX harness for it yet?

Terry S

I currently can log boost with a MAP sensor. Tom is working on boost control... soon!

No harness for IX yet but Tom is also working on that as well.

I think the most impressive thing about the ECU+ is that Tom is very very involved with feedback of the user community. He is a one-man company and is very passionate about the product.

more info at: http://www.ecuplus.com/

Bummer. I'm looking for something that controls boost as well (I hate MBC's)

Terry S

[lagcisco]

http://forums.evolutionm.net/showthread.php?p=2962820

review of ecu+ from an xede point of view

[earlyapex]

Bummer. I'm looking for something that controls boost as well (I hate MBC's)

Terry S

It will soon, I am waiting for it too.

[TrickedOutEVOVIII]

wow...i leave the computer for a few hours and look at all the responses. thanx everyone for all the helpful info. thanx earlyapex. are you using a palm with it or a laptop?? im assuming the laptop would offer much more logging capabilities than the palm. you can download their software directly into your palm or laptop right??? no need for any other software or download anything else right?? as long as you have a palm or laptop and the ecu+ and its sofware, youre all set to install and tune right?? another question i have is that the ecu+ does not have AFR logging capabilities, although indirectly it does through the o2 voltage, but is there a way to get an AFR meter like zeitronics and have it read with your ECU+??? the reason im concerned with this is cuz the narrow band oem o2 sensor doesnt read with the accuracy of a wideband o2 sensor which is what i want. i was just wondering if there was a way to include a wideband o2 instead of the narrow band with the ecu+ software....

another reason, all of you that are advising me to keep my standalone, should know is that im looking into the ecu+ instead of a standalone is because i can tune it myself. i would much rather tune my own car and be proud of the numbers i acheive that way instead of having someone else tune it for me. my .02 cents.

T

[*chris*]

ive been interested in this for awhile ...but one thing i was curious about. what would the difference be between the 3in maf and the 3.5in maf? just more airflow?

kim, bryan ...did you guys upgrade to a gm maf?

[TrickedOutEVOVIII]

thats exactly what it is...less restrictions

[earlyapex]

thanx earlyapex.* are you using a palm with it or a laptop??* im assuming the laptop would offer much more logging capabilities than the palm.* you can download their software directly into your palm or laptop right???* no need for any other software or download anything else right??* as long as you have a palm or laptop and the ecu+ and its sofware, youre all set to install and tune right??*

I use both a laptop and a palm. I use the laptop for when I do logging just because it's easier to read the logs on the street while I am tweaking, and I use the palm after for super fine tuning during the week, etc.

As long as you have the ECU+ box and cables and the software installed on the laptop and palm, that's all you need. Unless you have a non-serial port equipped laptop, then you need a USB to serial port adapter.

another question i have is that the ecu+ does not have AFR logging capabilities, although indirectly it does through the o2 voltage, but is there a way to get an AFR meter like zeitronics and have it read with your ECU+???* the reason im concerned with this is cuz the narrow band oem o2 sensor doesnt read with the accuracy of a wideband o2 sensor which is what i want.* i was just wondering if there was a way to include a wideband o2 instead of the narrow band with the ecu+ software....

The ECU+ does indeed have Wideband AFR logging capabilities. :) I use a zeitronix and log it via ECU+. Look at the screenshot I posted above.

The ECU+ currently supports these widebands:

FJO Racing Wide Band Oxygen Sensor kits using controller CWC0002 or CWC0001
PLX Devices M-Series (M-200, M-250, M-300, M-400 and M-500) Wideband Oxygen Sensor Controllers, with or without the M-Series gauges
Innovative Motorsports LM-1 Air/Fuel Gauge
Tech Edge WB02 Lambda Meters (WBo2 version 2A0 and TE-WB Wideband Unit (v1.5))
Zeitronix Zt-2 Wideband Air/Fuel Ratio Meter
AEM Wideband UEGO Controller and Gauge-Type Wideband UEGO Controller


another VERY cool feature of the ECU+ is the street dyno which you can use on any log and also do multiple overlays, the cursor also follows not only the curves but the time-based logs. Very helpful for seeing if tuning changes made a difference:



ECU+ also has full OBD2 scanning (like pocketlogger).

For full feature list check out: http://www.ecuplus.com/features.htm

[DTunedEvoX]

What EarlyApex says .. reading some of his posts on the ECU+ forums and speaking with him directly on AIM is like having tech support LOL ...

If I were to do it again ~ I would do it again .. ECU+ rocks ..

[TrickedOutEVOVIII]

earlyapex...good info bro. another good thing i was researching about ecu+ is that since its using similar fuel adjustments as the SAFC (+/- % of fuel), except it allows up to 50% both ways, you can copy your low/hi throttle settings directly from the safc into the ecu+ so you dont have to have your ecu+ initially tuned since there are larger injectors. that way you dont run the danger of something happening!! the more im reading about it, the more im loving it. its so user friendly.

T

[Terry S]

Since the ECU+ directly controls timing, isn't upgraded injectors not as important (initially) compared to an SAFC2?

Terry S

[TrickedOutEVOVIII]

Since the ECU+ directly controls timing, isn't upgraded injectors not as important (initially) compared to an SAFC2?

Terry S

exactly terry, but you do have to input initial values if your car is modded via fuel upgrades. for the same reason it isn't recommended to drive or boost on a car that just had injectors installed. UNLESS ECU+ has a built in map to deal with these types of things.

oh yeah, something i completely forgot about. earlyapex...what if you want to switch maps on different octane fuel??? can i have different maps for 91 oct and, say, C16???

T