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    Quote Originally Posted by Granny Shifter
    Satan, being the prince of deception and temptation, leads people to their own demise. God is the true authority in the universe. This is assuming that God is directly correlated with the death of 2 million. Satan's influence can sway the path of those in the plan of salvation, leading them to die. In the case of Noah's Ark, people were so evil that he had to rid the world of them. Sodom and Gamorah had a similar result. I would not say that God "murdered" 2 million, but passes his full authoritive judgement upon them.
    Good answer..its quite interesting to see how people are always looking for ways to discredit God and the way he does things...The chart was quick to point out the amount of people that God killed but somehow couldn't put together the 10 that Satan did lol.

    As a side note, has anyone looked up the millions (possibly billions) he has saved? just a simple question since every argument has two sides¬*
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    so in a nutshell God did some much needed "cleansing/ population control"
    yeah....go God!

    Terry any update on that Satan kill list?
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    Re: Bible Info: God vs. Satan - Final Body Count

    Quote Originally Posted by Granny Shifter
    This is assuming that God is directly correlated with the death of 2 million.

    In the case of Noah's Ark, people were so evil that he had to rid the world of them.

    Sodom and Gamorah had a similar result.

    I would not say that God "murdered" 2 million, but passes his full authoritive judgement upon them.
    so let me get this strait... passing judgement on people and then 'ridding them' from the planet, is not killing?

    so, the same could be applied in just about any other murder argument. well, i didnt kill him, i just passed judgement on him.

    i love religion. seriously, 'thouh shalt not kill' ...god just broke one of his own commandments. isnt law, law? the people who write the laws, are still bound to them. and dont give me that crap god is above everything. given enough time, im sure we could create worlds.

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    Re: Bible Info: God vs. Satan - Final Body Count

    The thing is - no matter how many people you save- or help (in the case of a human) .... it only takes 1 murder to be considered a killer ...

    There will always be people discrediting other people. Wheter it be god or otherwise. It comes with the territory - Theres no good if theres no evil ... Same with politics, etc- they always try to find a weakness ...

    LOL I make no sense right now so I guess I'll throw this in here ..

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    Re: Bible Info: God vs. Satan - Final Body Count

    Well damn. The guy who I got this photo & the unrelated link to the body count from has not been questioned about the 10 S kills so he doesn't know. He's one of those fanatical atheists so he said "that's not the point". I guess I get to do the search on my own now. Anyone well versed in the bible wanna do it for me? lol

    Also, as I just stated, I believe the image and the link to the list are unrelated but basically state the same data arrived by two different individuals.

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    Re: Bible Info: God vs. Satan - Final Body Count

    Quote Originally Posted by *chris*
    Quote Originally Posted by Granny Shifter
    This is assuming that God is directly correlated with the death of 2 million.

    In the case of Noah's Ark, people were so evil that he had to rid the world of them.

    Sodom and Gamorah had a similar result.

    I would not say that God "murdered" 2 million, but passes his full authoritive judgement upon them.
    so let me get this strait... passing judgement on people and then 'ridding them' from the planet, is not killing?

    so, the same could be applied in just about any other murder argument. well, i didnt kill him, i just passed judgement on him.

    i love religion. seriously, 'thouh shalt not kill' ...god just broke one of his own commandments. isnt law, law? the people who write the laws, are still bound to them. and dont give me that crap god is above everything. given enough time, im sure we could create worlds.

    the commandments are for the people of God not for Him. It's not God who killed them it's their sins.
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    the consequence of sin is death.
    2Cor5:17

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    Re: Bible Info: God vs. Satan - Final Body Count

    i dont see how god is above law ...thats all. he supposedly 'gave' us these commandments but yet, he doesnt give a fk about them in his own dealings. sounds shady to me.

    'course im biased cuz i dont believe in christianity

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    the consequence of sin is death.. .... ugh... more like


    the consequence of life is death
    r u looney tuned?

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    Quote Originally Posted by *chris*
    i dont see how god is above law ...thats all. he supposedly 'gave' us these commandments but yet, he doesnt give a fk about them in his own dealings. sounds shady to me.

    'course im biased cuz i dont believe in christianity
    1. I am the Lord thy God, which have brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage. Thou shalt have no other gods before me.

    2. Thou shalt not take the name of the Lord thy God in vain.

    3. Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth. Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them.

    4. Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy.

    5. Honor thy father and thy mother: that thy days may be long.

    6. Thou shalt not kill.

    7. Thou shalt not commit adultery.

    8. Thou shalt not steal.

    9. Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor.

    10. Thou shalt not covet thy neighbor's house, thou shalt not covet thy neighbor's wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor his ox, nor his ass, nor anything that is thy neighbor's.

    Look at the 10 commandments man. These commandments are guidelines on how we are supposed to deal with our lives. How is God supposed to follow commandments made for humans, in which the general consensus of them is to respect GOD and respect OTHERS. Analyze them. The first four commandments deal with respecting God followed by the six that deal with people. God intended these commandments for people; not himself. Second of all, I would not go about making God look as a killer. He is absolute authority and if he kills, there is a reason behind it.

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    "For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord (Romans 6:23)."

    Then you look at the very common verse John 3:16, "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life."
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    Re: Bible Info: God vs. Satan - Final Body Count

    Quote Originally Posted by Granny Shifter
    3. Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth. Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them.
    Sounds like the whole Christian faith goes against this one... Doesn't this make Christians sinners and blasphemers?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Terry S
    Quote Originally Posted by Granny Shifter
    3. Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth. Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them.
    Sounds like the whole Christian faith goes against this one... Doesn't this make Christians sinners and blasphemers?

    Terry S
    Please elaborate.
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    Re: Bible Info: God vs. Satan - Final Body Count

    Quote Originally Posted by Granny Shifter
    Quote Originally Posted by Terry S
    Quote Originally Posted by Granny Shifter
    3. Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth. Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them.
    Sounds like the whole Christian faith goes against this one... Doesn't this make Christians sinners and blasphemers?

    Terry S
    Please elaborate.
    Read the quote.

    People carrying crosses with jesus, or the virgin mary & all that stuff are "technically" using "graven images" of "[something] that is in heaven, ... [or] the earth beneath". Stating that your worshiping the ideas or teachings they represent is no different than the other Idolers who do the same thing to their "false gods".

    Christians are Idolers and therefore blasphemers. Thats why I dont like christians. (Jews aren't exempt either because they idolize Moses (I think)).

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    As a Seventh Day Adventist, our religion does not condone having these items such as crosses and such. Seventh Day Adventism is different from Catholicism and we make a strong point not to be involved with this religion. Heck, even our Bibles are quite different. The original scriptures for the Catholic Bible comes from the Vatticana while we use the KJV, a more direct translation from Hebrew.
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    Please do not generalize Christianity with Catholicism. I'm sorry if it has given you a bad taste of religion, but you will not get the full meaning of being a Christian until you look for religion for yourself.
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    Re: Bible Info: God vs. Satan - Final Body Count

    i still say the commandments are bogus. think about it, humans are technically animals. animals kill each other all the time. its called survival of the fittest. its how the food chain works. so then why the hell are we held to this superior position? cuz we're created in his likeness? give me a break. all that old testament crap is just heresy. did the book of genesis just fall from the sky immediately after things were created?

    just to clarify, im not attacking anybody. i just find incosistencies and stupidity in the christian religion. in MANY religions in fact.

    so they sit here and scare us into following these rules. why? if you sin, you go to hell. if thats not the biggest scare tactic ever created, i dont know what is. so basically, just being alive is a sin, and you need to ask for forgiveness or youre d00med to hell.
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    Well, your experiences and such have lead you to where you stand today. I urge you to analytically view the Bible before allowing this hindsight bias to come into motion. Can you please explain what you are trying to infer with natural selection? I am intrigued with what you have to say. I also have another question. What do you believe?
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    Re: Bible Info: God vs. Satan - Final Body Count

    well hey, at least youre being cool with it. like i said, i wasnt trying to attack your or anyone else for their beliefs.

    with the natural selection, im simply saying that i dont understand why 'thou shalt not kill' is even a commandment. everyday, every animal on the planet kills something else to further its own survival. but yet, humans are somehow held to this, dont kill each other stuff. the commandment just sounds like something a person would say ...you know, lifes so precious, blah blah blah.

    what do i believe? i think theyres prolly something out there. whether its one god or many, i dont know. no-one can know for sure. and the god or gods, prolly think of our planet more like a fish tank. just let us live our lives and dont interfere. so im sure they have many 'fishtanks'.

    i DONT believe in destiny or anything pre-ordaned. life is all about chance.

    i grew up with many other christians and i used to believe it. i also studied many other religions because i am pretty fascinated by ancient cultures and other religions. but it was just one thing after another that caused me to lose faith in 'christianity'.

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    Re: Bible Info: God vs. Satan - Final Body Count

    Quote Originally Posted by Granny Shifter
    Please do not generalize Christianity with Catholicism. I'm sorry if it has given you a bad taste of religion, but you will not get the full meaning of being a Christian until you look for religion for yourself.
    I'm sorry to say, but there is really very little in the way of differences between almost all of the Christian sects. Hell, almost all religions say 95% the same thing anyways. It's all the same ideas but differing in the way its communicated.

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    Its great talking to someone about a topic like this and I by all means am not trying to prove anything. I believe we are quite different from animals, not only physiologically. Our psychological interpretations and processes differentiate us from the animal kingdom. Well, I believe that we do not act out of instinct. We can use our past experiences to judge our actions. I really like the father of American Psychology, William James work on functionalism along with the topic empiricism. We do need to survive, but we have some different complexities that make us different from the animal kingdom. I also love the randomness of life. Destiny and crap do not really work. I have studied a little bit of Chaos Theory, which really has let me stretch my wings. In my religion, I really have confirmed my beliefs from studying different aspects of life. If you ever want to see a good movie that shows you how to prove Religion, you should see "Contact". In the end, you really can't prove religion. It is the amount of faith you have. With Christianity, your faith in Jesus Christ is what will save you in the end. When others tell you to do good deeds and such, it does not really have to do with being saved. The Bible says that when your faith grows stronger and you grow closer to Jesus Christ, you will be compelled to do good to others.
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