Looks like e85 is coming to a neighborhood near you....

[gt40]

Let's see: lose significant fuel savings, probably slightly more power with e85 and meth on a car you want to track is silly. Why add a whole additional layer of things that could go wrong to your fuel system? The kits are better than they used to, but not suitable for running at the track. You have electrical connections, another tank of flammable liquid in your trunk, another pump that could fail and then it still needs to be setup and tuned right.

E85 could get you to 104 unleaded power levels + much cheaper than race gas costs

[LiquidLife]

gt, more power with e85?????????????????????

[gt40]

i found this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Octane_rating

Meth is around 107 if this is correct.Â* Injecting a small amount of 107 meth to 91 in a 10-12/1 ratio should result in a lower octane rating than 104-105 octane that e85 is rated at.Â*

Someone can test this I am sure but the cost is higher in any case.Â* Injectors change or fpr to bump 30% more fuel into the motor+ tuning should work.Â* e85 should be cheaper than 91.Â* Meth is kinda expensive too at 8+ dollars a gallon.

I am going to guess I can get more timing into my motor with e85 than with meth injection so I will hazard a guess that e85 will be better than meth injection.Â* Staight meth would own both probably but that is a different ball game and set of issues.Â* Meth is corrosive compared to e85 in any case...

[LiquidLife]

how corrosive is e85

[LiquidLife]

This sounds like a good freakin' deal, switching over to e85... I can't wait to hear the results.

[Terenus]

So people don't get confused, you need to put in 12 Gallons of E85 and 2 Gallons of Unleaded Fuel. You can't just dump in all E85.

Uh, E85 already has 15% gasoline, hence the 85. So you need more gasoline still? Just wondering since your 2 to 12 is also close to the 15%.

[LiquidLife]

Yeah I read that about e85 too, 85% Ethenol, and 15% gas.

[LiquidLife]

If they ship jugs to you of e85 that do not contain gas, then it isn't e85

[camMCLEAN]

go to that dudes website that is like obsessed with e85...

e85evo.com

[LiquidLife]

the only problem with this that really bothers me is the fact that it's illegal without having the gov approve it on your Evo...

Everyone has illegal mods, but if I ever have to go to the ref, I'd rather not replace my fuel system and some other parts, on top of every other illegal mod that's in my car... uhg....

If it wasn't for the man, just like anything though, this would be awesome.

[gt40]

E85 is only corrosive to your fuel lines. I believe AMS has created a E85 kit already, but I don't know if testing is done yet. I will let you guys know, since I am switching over to E85 in Dec. with one other member. BTW they deliver E85 to your house if you want for like $2.50 a gallon, but only in like 10 gallon jugs.

E85 is NOT corrosive to our fuel lines. The "E" in E85 stands for Ethanol or wood alcohol. It is pretty benign compared to Methanol, which is corrosive. I do not know of any company shipping actual E85, although you may be able to get some form of ethanol shipped. E85 is a specific formulation so mixing it yourself will likely result in varied results compared to what you can (hopefully) buy at the pump.

[TeKiZeRo]

Would running E85 technically make your car smog exempt since it burns cleaner?

[Terenus]

Would running E85 technically make your car smog exempt since it burns cleaner?

That would be interesting to see, but instead of being exempt you can maybe run E85 when you do your smog and run cleaner?

[TeKiZeRo]

Or be smog exempt and run all the bling you want under the hood :D.

[Terenus]

Or be smog exempt and run all the bling you want under the hood :D.

Haha, how do you even get your car exempt? Is it even possible?

[TeKiZeRo]

That's what I would like to figure out! If E85 could burn clean enough for you to be smog exempt. But even if it burns clean enough, what about the visuals?

[funks]

can e85 be mixed with 91 pisstane gas to increase the octane level?

will

107 * 2 gals + 91 * 10 gals = 1124 / 12 gals := 93.6 octane?

[JOOTZ]

e85.com for a filling station near you
chevy is advertising here in cali already
just saw it in the boobtube a while ago
so i guess its coming our way

[Pops]

http://www.e85refueling.com/location...3f42f06bb37552

Livermore, West LA, San Diego, Lompoc.

But how many are actually selling it to the public NOW?

[atlvalet]

More E85 stations are coming. GM has funded like 13 stations IIRC (because of their flex fuel vehicles).

A lot of the benefit of the E85 is the cooling (evaporative) ability of the alcohol. Approx 105 octane, but some guys feel it's even more beneficial than many racing fuels.

Check out Pacific Ethanol (PEIX). THe Western US is about to have a large increase in ethanol capacity.

Soon, there will be more E85 stations here. It's gonna happen.

http://www.conservfuel.com/