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    Cosi Cams Part II: +30 HP & 24 ft-lbs

    This is the 4th installment in tuning Smartbomb’s car (Mike Kojima). The last time we ran it with the cosworth cams without much tuning. I just pulled a couple of degrees up top to combat knock. Here is the link to the last write-up:

    http://www.socalevo.net/forum/index.php?topic=63624.0

    This round involved swapping to a #67 pill and adding boost to recover the low end gains that we lost from swapping to bigger cams and hoping that the #67 pill will give us more WGDC to add more boost up top. It did not. While logged WGDC was lowered by 10% at the low end, and about 5-6% in the mid range, above 6500 rpm the WGDC was almost identical between the #65 pill and the #67 pill. I think the next level for this car will be the 3-port solenoid from Tactrix. It is more expensive than the GM 3-port, but it is plug-n-play and that is worth it, IMO. Another possibility is to adjust the tension on the wastegate arm to give us more WGDC to play with.



    After swapping to the #67 pill, I went about giving the car an aggressive boost curve. The thing I love about working on Kojima’s car is that he loves boost and he loves to push the edge of the performance envelope. Here is the way the boost profile looked in comparison to what it was when we ran the car with the cams un-tuned:



    Average peak boost went up by about 1 psi from 23.03 to 23.95. Peak boost hit above 25 psi on several occasions. The car hit the 280 load cell from 3500 to 4000 rpm and the 260 load cell from 5000-6000 rpm. That did not happen without a tune. Above 6000 rpm, however, boost was only fractionally higher than before.

    The AFR was really close to the way it was before, so it is not worth posting about it. Knock was slightly lower despite the higher boost. Here are the knock charts:



    If you recall, last time I pulled a couple of degrees to combat knock. This time I did not even though we had higher boost. There were no more than 1-2 counts of knock. Most of the 2 counts at the low end were from tip-in knock.

    With the boost tuned the car made amazing power than when it was without cams. Here is the before and after power curves. The benchmark is w/o cams and the higher powered one is with cams:



    Weather conditions w/o cams: Temp 21*C, Humidity 63%, Baro 101
    Weather conditions w/tuned cams: Temp 25*C, Humidity 61%, Baro 101

    The last time we ran the car w/o tuning the boost the car lost some low end power. It lost about 4 hp between 3000-3500 rpm and about 4 ft-lbs between 3500-4000 rpm. This time there were gains across the power band: 11 hp and 12 ft-lb average gain in the low end; 22 hp and 23 ft-lb average gain in the mid-range; and a stunning 29 hp and 19 ft-lb average gain at the top end. The biggest average hp gain was 30 hp from 7000-7500 rpm and the biggest average torque gain was 24.5 ft-lbs from 5000-5500 rpm.

    A trademark of all Looney Tuned cars is their amazing top end. This car was no different. This Evo kept pulling all the way to the 8000 rpm redline. Mike even hit the 8000 redline a couple of times. The car simply wanted a higher redline.

    So what is next for this car?

    1. A new Nisei 4.5 inch IC will be installed while keeping the crash beam. Nisei has designed a 4.5 inch with contoured end tanks to allow fitment behind the crash beam. I am skeptical. Let us wait and see. That big IC should allow us to run more timing advance and more boost. We will see what we can get away with on 91 octane with that beast of an IC.

    2. A hyper tune intake manifold. The nice thing about this manifold is that it allows the end user to keep all the emission equipment plugged in their place. In one magazine test this intake performed best across the power curve.

    3. A bigger 280 cam (I do not remember is it is an intake or exhaust).

    I am sure Kojima has other bolt-ons in mind. Eventually, we will have to take this Evo and put it on a dynojet and see if we can crack 400 whp on 91 octane gas with the stock turbo.

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    Re: Cosi Cams Part II: +30 HP & 24 ft-lbs

    thats nice!!!
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    Re: Cosi Cams Part II: +30 HP & 24 ft-lbs

    If you get 400whp on a dynojet with 91 octane and stock turbo, that will be ridiculously impressive

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    Re: Cosi Cams Part II: +30 HP & 24 ft-lbs

    Quote Originally Posted by 1WkdEvo
    If you get 400whp on a dynojet with 91 octane and stock turbo, that will be ridiculously impressive
    i thinnk it;s just a matter of time.. just a matter of time..
    the way things seemed to be going, this should happen at the end of the year.. notice how far tuning itself has come along on the 4g63 mivec and 4g63
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    all i can say is wow.... can't wait for the day when we hit the 400 mark on stock turbo ;D
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1WkdEvo
    If you get 400whp on a dynojet with 91 octane and stock turbo, that will be ridiculously impressive
    a couple of people have done it already but it is crazy to see.

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    Re: Cosi Cams Part II: +30 HP & 24 ft-lbs

    Really, damn. I am on Evom quite a bit and watch that stock turbo thread, but I haven't seen anyone do it on 91 and stock ecu. Ill look again, because that is simply badass

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    damn I totally forgot aby is on the EMS so hes a cheater haha but I remember someone else doing it but I could be wrong.

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    Nice resultsÂ* O0

    is this the same mike kojima that grew up in gardena & was an avid mustang fan?

    btw, i plan on throwing in a evo 9 turbo.... i just miss the low rev response......the green is nice.....but yeah, i am a cheater = > no maf = > aem ecuÂ* O0

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    Quote Originally Posted by WOT
    i just miss the low rev response...
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    Re: Cosi Cams Part II: +30 HP & 24 ft-lbs

    Quote Originally Posted by WOT
    Nice results O0

    is this the same mike kojima that grew up in gardena & was an avid mustang fan?

    btw, i plan on throwing in a evo 9 turbo.... i just miss the low rev response......the green is nice.....but yeah, i am a cheater = > no maf = > aem ecu O0
    you are a cheater... loll now lets see what that FP green with some of your magic can do ... DO IT!! XD
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    Re: Cosi Cams Part II: +30 HP & 24 ft-lbs

    We have already seen that Tomas :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by WOT
    Nice results O0

    is this the same mike kojima that grew up in gardena & was an avid mustang fan?

    btw, i plan on throwing in a evo 9 turbo.... i just miss the low rev response......the green is nice.....but yeah, i am a cheater = > no maf = > aem ecu O0
    the green really feels that much laggier?

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    Re: Cosi Cams Part II: +30 HP & 24 ft-lbs

    Quote Originally Posted by 1WkdEvo
    We have already seen that Tomas :-)
    fk! loll i need to keep up with some of these threads going around.. hehehe thanks...
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    Why swap to a nisei 4.5 inch intercooler? Did you notice heatsoak with the xs engineering 3.5 inch intercooler?

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    my cosi's should be on order by next week!! thanks to kojimas input..
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    Quote Originally Posted by hardcoreracing
    Why swap to a nisei 4.5 inch intercooler? Did you notice heatsoak with the xs engineering 3.5 inch intercooler?
    We want to see what the differences are. I am hoping that we can knock the knock count down to zero so we can add more timing. Timing has a synergistic effect of reducing combustion temps and EGT if knock can be controled, while adding power. I think we are close to the point of diminishing returns when it comes to turning up the boost. We are going to try the Nisei IC, Add preload to the WG actuator so we can have control of the boost in the last load row (we are at 100% duty cycle there), then add an ARC oil cooler, then a Hypertune intake manifold and finaly try the Cossie 280 intake cam.

    I hope we can reach 400 whp with the stock longblock and turbo.
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    not going to do any porting of the stock turbo?

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    pretty impressive gains on the evo 9
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    very impressive, once i'm done setting up my suspension, i will get my power mods going and get a Lo0ney tune
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