I dissagree with you on the MIVEC.Â* On a Race Car you are right, on a DD that is a weekend warrior I dissagree.Â* The MIVEC helped my car with my Cossworth M3's all the way to redline.Â* James spent HOURS on my MIVEC mapping to achieve something I liked and what he liked.Â* My cams on an 8?Â* Even with Cam Gears would BARELY idle, I know cause James had a simalar set on an 8 in his shop when my cams were being installed.Â* There are only really 2 ways to make power on the Evo, or any car really.Â* Timing and Boost.Â* The MIVEC makes things simplier if you know how to tune it, Cam gears are great on a Race car, but on a DD?? I would think it would be a pain in the Yass.Â* The ECU can correct problems much quicker than someone moving a sprocket 1 degree at a time.Â* So its up in the air.Â* True, built Evo 8's and 9's put out similar numbers, but look at the dyno graphs.Â* They are not similar, and the MIVEC DOES help.Â* I was lucky enough to have owned both, an 8 and a 9 and both are such great cars.Â* But the 9 has a slight edge in the Real world.Â* Both are wicked fast in the RACE world.