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    hey guys just joined i live in temecula and have a 2013 gsr and im having some trouble trying to find a really good tuner near me, anyone know anything ??

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    are they good ? have you had an experience with them

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    Re: cobb access port or custom tune??

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    Tuning technologies in colton
    are they good ? have you had an experience with them
    Tuning Technologies is a trusted vendor here on SoCalEvo.net with many happy and loyal customers.Â* Go check out their vendor section on this forum.Â*

    I know you've been asking a lot lately if a stage 1 tune (intake, exhaust, 3port solenoid, high flow cat or test pipe) good for about 320whp is a safe daily driver option.Â* Â*The short answer is yes, but just remember that you ARE voiding your factory warranty and anything you do that is risky with the stock vehicle is going to be made worse with a tune (i.e. Taking corners fast with less than half a tank of gas repeatedly, like at a track, will increase the chance of fuel starvation and cause a lean condition and possible engine damage.).

    Also keep in mind that if you get bolt on mods and drive the car WITHOUT tuning it you are still likely to do more harm than good and STILL likely void your warranty if you damage the car because you drove it with aftermarket add-ons.Â* The factory does NOT want you to do that.

    So unless you want to run bone stock or very close to it, don't bother eyeballing aftermarket goodies if you're not planning on getting a tune.

    Better yet, contact Tuning Technologies, visit them, and ask them questions politely, and they should be able to give you the straight answers and tell you honestly whether getting your Evo tuned is the right decision for you.
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    RRE for custom tune and you wont be disappointed and let me tell you they only work on evos and 2g stuff so you dont have to ask if they're good
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    Re: cobb access port or custom tune??

    Quote Originally Posted by jangvt
    RRE for custom tune and you wont be disappointed and let me tell you they only work on evos and 2g stuff so you dont have to ask if they're good
    They don't _ONLY_ work on Evo's and 2G's.

    Just to add to that list of cars I've seen there.

    1G Eclipse
    2G Eclipse
    3G Eclipse
    4G Eclipse

    Evo (all)

    I think I seen a couple of the VR4 Galant's there.

    Didn't Mike have a Mirage at one point?

    Joon Maeng's Formula D car which I believe is a Nissan.

    Who knows how many other cars they've worked on and dealt with over the years.

    However, Mike W is the lord god almighty of the Evolution. I proclaim to it!
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    Quote Originally Posted by deprydation
    Quote Originally Posted by jangvt
    RRE for custom tune and you wont be disappointed and let me tell you they only work on evos and 2g stuff so you dont have to ask if they're good
    They don't _ONLY_ work on Evo's and 2G's.

    Just to add to that list of cars I've seen there.

    1G Eclipse
    2G Eclipse
    3G Eclipse
    4G Eclipse

    Evo (all)

    I think I seen a couple of the VR4 Galant's there.

    Didn't Mike have a Mirage at one point?

    Joon Maeng's Formula D car which I believe is a Nissan.

    Who knows how many other cars they've worked on and dealt with over the years.

    However, Mike W is the lord god almighty of the Evolution. I proclaim to it!
    sorry i miss a lot of the eclipse model lol
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    I have an accessport now and if I were to get a custom tune could I later get a tune from a tuner using a custom tune of my AP (straight tongue twister). I just want to know if I could go over the custom tune with the AP. I want a custom tune, but when I go back to Ohio in August I see a bunch of people who tune using the APs. Still not sure what route I ant to go. I really want to get tuned by KTMotoring though.

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    Some shops can tune with Cobb's software. The maps can be put on your AP and yes, you can load it whenever you want or revert to an off-the-shelf map if you really wanted to. Although once you get custom tuned, you'll probably find no real reason to change maps. The AP then becomes just a code scanning tool and data logger.

    If your burning desire is to get tuned by KT Motoring, call and ask if they can Cobb tune. What's the worst thing that can happen, they say no?
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    Well what I was thinking was getting a custom tune now, then when I go back to Ohio and when I do more mods (cams, turbo, etc.) go to a shop that tunes with the AP. KT Motoring doesnt tune the APs, I know that for sure. Thats the reason I ask that if I get a new tune on the AP and log it that way, will it erase what custom tune was currently on it? This is my first car that Ive truely got to mod, so Im trying to see what I can do from where Im at now. Plus the shops that I have seen charge quite a bit to tune the AP although I already have one. Also, KT has shown my car and myself a lot of love with the work theyve helped me with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jangvt View Post
    RRE for custom tune and you wont be disappointed and let me tell you they only work on evos and 2g stuff so you dont have to ask if they're good
    RRE custom tune AP?

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    Quote Originally Posted by x MR View Post
    RRE custom tune AP?
    you dont need a Cobb AP to tune the X...
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    Quote Originally Posted by EvolutionXtacy View Post
    you dont need a Cobb AP to tune the X...

    Amen .
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    Quote Originally Posted by x MR View Post
    RRE custom tune AP?
    Yes we can and do. All you do is send in the serial number for the AP to get the license for Cobb's Race Tuner. Then once you are done tuning the car with the regular open source ECUFlash that the free world uses then you translate the tune into Race Tuner, then flash the car back to stock, marry the AP, then use the little AP thingy to upload your tune into the ECU. Kind of a lot of work but we only charge $80 extra for all that.

    For the customer to save and load additional maps, flash back and forth all the time to stock on an EVO X or RalliArt you currently have these options:

    $600 new AP
    $300 used AP
    $180 Tactrix cable and free software loaded onto any laptop with a decent battery made in the last 10 years.

    Your call. We do not charge to flash a car to stock or to reload a tune if you come to the shop.


    For a small donation to Tephra, the stock ECU can hold two separate calibrations (example 91 and E-85) without the AP on:

    2008-2013 GSR
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    With a 2011-2013 MR, the further you live into BFE the more the AP can help you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike W View Post
    Yes we can and do. All you do is send in the serial number for the AP to get the license for Cobb's Race Tuner. Then once you are done tuning the car with the regular open source ECUFlash that the free world uses then you translate the tune into Race Tuner, then flash the car back to stock, marry the AP, then use the little AP thingy to upload your tune into the ECU. Kind of a lot of work but we only charge $80 extra for all that.

    For the customer to save and load additional maps, flash back and forth all the time to stock on an EVO X or RalliArt you currently have these options:

    $600 new AP
    $300 used AP
    $180 Tactrix cable and free software loaded onto any laptop with a decent battery made in the last 10 years.

    Your call. We do not charge to flash a car to stock or to reload a tune if you come to the shop.


    For a small donation to Tephra, the stock ECU can hold two separate calibrations (example 91 and E-85) without the AP on:

    2008-2013 GSR
    2008-2010 MR
    2010 RalliArt

    With a 2011-2013 MR, the further you live into BFE the more the AP can help you.

    Mike W
    do you also tune the SST with the AP? reason I'm asking is because I already have pro tune on my AP , but for future reference... I may want to retune for new turbo :)

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    It would save you a bunch of money to get retuned by your current tooner. Big clutches are safest to go with your big turbo.

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    I have a question about tuning and smog, Will I pass a smog test with a tune and minor upgrades. Like a cat back or intake and boost solenoid?
    also if I use the Cobb AP will the dealships be able to telli have one one there if I take my car in for a factory warranty problem??

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    Depends on the nature of your factory warranty problem.

    You threw a rod and poked a hole through the side of the block? They'll check your ECU. Your passenger side front window won't roll down? They won't.

    You have a 2013. Your first smog check is due for your 2020 renewal I believe. You should pass the ECU test if you don't have any stored codes. You should pass the sniffer test as long as you have a catalytic converter. If they send you to a state referee because a cop pulled you over and decided to write you up, then you'll be reversing everything without an exemption at that point.

    Keep your stock intake and swap back to it for your smog check in six years, just in case. Or if your intake is CARB legal make sure you have its except sticker on display on the intake and make sure it's appropriate for your car. I went to the extra step of printing out the Executie Order for my exempt intake when I had my Speed 6 smogged (Cobb intake, here's the specific EO document link: http://arb.ca.gov/msprog/aftermkt/devices/eo/D-660.pdf ).

    One thing to remember, and it's kind of goofy. You're probably not going to find any EOs that cover your 2013, even if the same intake is legal for older ones. Why? Because you're still years from even having to worry about smog, so odds are the manufacturer hasn't even started the process for getting the 2013 exempted. This means that out on the street, if you get pulled over, the officer doesn't give a rat's ass whether your intake is CARB legal or not he'll just ref you if he's feeling mean. And the ref will probably say "sorry, revert it to stock because your intake isn't technically legal for your model year yet." In other words, the 2013 is in a sort of a technical loophole.

    California has its own goofy little laws which add paperwork and headaches for no real benefit. The "safe handguns" list is like that too, where two brand new identical guns but with different finishes (chrome finish vs nickle finish) are technically considered two different kinds of guns and must be tested separately, even if the only difference is the metal that the part was plated with.

    Anyway six years is quite a lot of years and things may change dramatically in that time period.
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    Collection of my prior posts and answers on the subject: (search here still suxorz)

    Installing an intake wont void the warranty on the tail lights. Installing a bigger turbo wont void the warranty on the power windows or ABS brake system. Getting the ECU flashed and tuning wont void the warranty on alarm system. If you go in to a dealership for a leaking tail light or maybe the windshield wipers come on when you push the driver's window switch, a decent dealership won't care if the car has a big turbo and is tuned.

    But if you go back to the dealership with a transfer case whine, with a hole in your piston or with your transmission scattered all over the freeway, the motor and everything under the hood needs to be perfectly stock. Anytime you present your car for drivetrain warranty work at a Mitsubishi dealership, it had better be totally stock. Ideally done with the help of a professional "cleaner". Technically the car could have a cat back exhaust or some random non performance aftermarket part on it and legally under federal law your warranty would be still valid. But why risk things at that point. It is a lot easier to put a stock cat back on than lawyer up, no?

    You need to have your receipts for service (oil changes, drivetrain fluids etc) in order. You can even do your own oil changes, but you need the receipts and dates, preferably noted in the car's maintenance schedule book. You do not need to go to the dealership for service. It is not required legally.

    When you present your car to A dealership for drivetrain warranty work, the dealership needs to down load some info from the ECU, also take a lot of pics of the car under the hood and under the car and e-mail it all into MMSA headquarters. Then it may also be inspected in person by the local warranty rep from Mitsubishi.

    EVOs can have their warranties honored and failed having been previously tuned by both the Cobb AP and Opensource ECU Flash. As with all tools, correct use and their application is more important.

    But seriously, who takes their car to a Mitsubishi dealership for anything other than warranty work?

    Smog and Tuning

    Your success with a stock or modded, clean or dirty EVO at a smog test is only up to the guy that day that you happen to get. You could get a tech that normally didn,t care about some little thing, but his butty just got popped for a technicality so he'll crack down on every detail on your car out of paranoia. You could get a noob that thinks your external wastegate is a big fat EGR valve. You can get failed on a totally stock car with a bunch of stuff all polished and painted. You can pass a 500 whp sleeper with that same guy on another day.

    Does your car need to go on the rollers? No, they don’t have rollers anywhere for AWD cars. It gets the sniffer test only. Still and again it all depends on how smart the smog guy is that does your test that day. Stoopid ones will try to put an AWD car on the one axle roller and mess it all up. Smart guys will not. You need to babysit the car the whole time. Do not let your EVO out of your sight.

    Can I pass with a working high flow cat? Tail pipe part of the test? Maybe. You have a lot of unshielded parts before the cat. You'll need to get it hot first and keep it hot until the test for it to pass the tailpipe test. Actually all car pass better when hot. Even a stock car with a lot of miles on it it really helps to get the car hot first and keep it hot. You beat on it, leave it running until they start the test and if you even let it idle for more than 15 minutes go beat on it again and come back. Legally and technically no cat other than the stock cat is visually legal for the smog test. If the guy you get knows, notices and cares that you don’t have a stock cat, you fail the visual test.

    But, but, what about this little thing or that little part or what about my butty passed with this and my other bestest butty failed with that? Huh? Huh? Huh? The people that work there are peoples. Peoples are people. They interpret stuff differently. I went with Jamesinger to get his stock yet somewhat mildly modified ECU car to get smogged. Jamesinger had polished his stock upper I/C pipe. All 7" of it. The 60 year old smog guy spent 20 minutes looking at it, touching it and we spent another 15 minutes explaining how it was a stock part before he would move on to the next thing.

    Legally and technically you cannot modify anything in the ECU. Will the average or even smart smog tech find out or even know to look or have the cable and software to look? No. Is it technically possible? Yes. You say "Will a change to my ECU cause a failure on the new OBD test?" What change? One they can see and detect? Yes. I don’t know of any however at this time.

    Anything _perceived_ as modified that the smog tech cares about that day will not pass. If a smog tech thinks something stock is not, you fail. If a smog tech does not notice that something is modified, you pass. If a smog tech sees a modification and does not give a shit, you pass. Yes there are rules and laws, but they dont get applied equally. Welcome to the world as it has always been.

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    Ok thank you guys so much for all that great info! I wanna do this car right and legit, I'm glad I don't have to worry about smog crap for a few years. So is the ams inter cooler piping worth it? It gets rid of that dumb flexible hose..... Any input??.? I'd like to mainly get rid of my turbo lag. I want it snappy when I get out of corners. And I just don't need an extreme amount of power, I wanna stay sock on as much as I and be able to do most the work myself, although I know there will be some stuff out of my hands. If anyone has a good plan or idea besides just tuning the hell out of it let me know. I don't wanna void my 100,000 warranty......

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